But the sun DOES go around all the planets just as "objectively" as they go around it. I think you should take the plank from your own eye, so to speak. https://twitter.com/izs/status/1289648685941489664?s=21 …https://twitter.com/izs/status/1289648685941489664 …
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Replying to @izs @Aya62335284 and
We don't accept models because they somehow correspond to a magical platonic "true" reality. We accept them because they predict observations to a reasonable degree of accuracy, with an acceptable parsimony of complexity.
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I have a prediction: the earth will continue revolving around the sun. Didn’t think I’d have 2 + 2 = 4 *and* earth revolves around the sun conversations in one day, but considering this is happening in the context of a woke agenda I’m not surprised.
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Replying to @Aya62335284 @izs and
Okay you actually understand that there is no privileged frame of reference when deciding whether "the sun goes around the earth" or "the earth goes around the sun" right Is Einstein "woke"? Is relativity "woke"?
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Are you suggesting that because of the theory of relativity Einstein ceased to hold the understanding that the earth revolves around the sun? At best that’s silly semantics if you wish to redefine “revolve.” Einstein was not woke. You clearly are.
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It's not semantics Jesus Christ There is no privileged frame of reference, do you understand what that sentence means
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What do you believe to be Einstein's thoughts on the relations between the earth and the sun?
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I believe he understood that there was no privileged frame of reference and that one could imagine either the Earth or the Sun as a fixed point if one so chose That's literally what that means
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 and
Indeed general relativity, with its almost trollish insistence that there is no distinction between acceleration and gravitation, depends on "radical copernicanism" (not only are we not the center of the universe, it has no center, and therefore everything is the center)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @izs and
Your wording here says a lot: Einstein was pretty "trollish" for copernicanism. Happens that consistency of perspective, rather than silly pretzeling for different ways of knowing, is quite productive. Good luck attempting to foster a woke world that dismantles consistencies.
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Okay so you clearly don't actually understand what I was talking about
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 and
And actually you owned yourself here too, because Einstein's great downfall in later life was his absolute refusal to "wrap his mind around" the "other way of knowing" represented by quantum mechanics and being humiliatingly proven wrong by experiment
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 and
In his defense, it's enormously frustrating! But that's the entire thing: you learn how to re-evaluate even the most fixed ideas you have in light of new information or a new context.
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