How utterly irrelevant Ayn Rand is here, and your discussion of educators/ education is a continued deflection. You’re still deflecting. Why?
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Replying to @Aya62335284 @perdricof
I'm not deflecting, this is the topic at hand You are arguing against a ridiculous strawman and acting like the people who want to advance human understanding are somehow the ones delaying it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof
Become a street vendor and start arguing for that degree of rounding. See how it goes.
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Replying to @Aya62335284 @perdricof
If I do not have access to a measurement tool with the degree of precision I want, and I am forced to compromise based on estimates (a common outcome in street vending, depending on the street), there are many situations where the 2+2 = 5 result is the fairer one
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You get that, right Do you understand I'm talking about a completely commonsense, real-life problem here That there are plenty of situations where dogmatically saying 2+2 = 4 is a way for me to cheat you
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The more general way to phrase what I'm talking about is "Weigh them all together" If the scale has a fudge factor then adding up separate results from it will make it worse But the "2+2=5" idea is absolutely an accurate way of describing it
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(This came up on Square One TV when I was a kid Months typically have four seven-day weeks, plus a few days extra It is very tempting to round down and just say "one month = four weeks" But if you do that for the whole year, you've cheated someone out of 4 weeks out of 52)
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(That particular example, even though you'd think it's a fucking obvious one, is one that's been used to fuck over uneducated people in the wild before Hence you always count the number of weeks in a year by dividing 365 / 7 = 52 plus a day, not by adding up the months)
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By "bailey" you mean "strawman", which 99% of the time is what it means when people like you use it
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"Motte-and-bailey arguments" themselves are the motte Reading everyone you dislike in bad faith as members of a sinister conspiracy is the bailey
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Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne and
Thank the fuck you Arthur That has been making me rage for absolutely years
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Replying to @GeorgeHemingto1 @arthur_affect and
I just can’t fucking vibe with anyone who has to use these tendentious heuristics to “debate” an issue and can’t actually just reason their way to a sensible conclusion
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