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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Rational Academic. What’s Left of the Sound Left?!‏ @Aya62335284 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof

      And it’s important to begin with shared definitions rather than oscillate between exaggerated hypotheticals of excessive rounding and semiotics to continue to resist in various ways the still very basic point that it’s good that we’re on the same page as to what 2 and 4 mean.

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Aya62335284 @perdricof

      You're using the word "semiotics" incorrectly, and "excessive rounding" is a silly thing to say It's not some kind of personal aesthetic decision, you understand, you MUST round based on how many significant digits of precision you have (which often isn't in your control)

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    3. Rational Academic. What’s Left of the Sound Left?!‏ @Aya62335284 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof

      Buddy. Define semiotics. “Excessive rounding” is an odd phrase. It’s meant to suggest that when rounding starts to become obvious in real world situations it becomes dishonest. Like rounding 2.2 pounds and 2.4 pounds to 5 pounds in a market. That’s not reasonable, objectively.

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Aya62335284 @perdricof

      It is completely reasonable if that is the limit of my method of measurement You do not CHOOSE the number of significant figures you have in a measurement, they are an outcome of the limitations of your tools for measuring

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

      Christ this is exactly like being back in high school trying to tutor kids in chemistry Look do you get that there's no objective definition of a "large" or "small" number? 5 grams is 0.005 kilos and is 5000 mg

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    6. Rational Academic. What’s Left of the Sound Left?!‏ @Aya62335284 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof

      Yes. In fact I do *share that understanding!* We’re talking about common understandings of 2 in a real world context. Round .0000002 on a bill and it essentially affects no one. Say half a pizza in one box and a whole pizza in another are 2 pizzas and it’s obvious.

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Aya62335284 @perdricof

      Rounding is not something you do because you are lazy and it doesn't matter, it is a necessity borne of the fundamental nature of measurement in the real world

      1 reply 2 retweets 23 likes
    8. Rational Academic. What’s Left of the Sound Left?!‏ @Aya62335284 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof

      If said measurement is intentionally manipulative , say, playing with rounding in a financial context, it’s a crime of fraudulence for a reason.

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Aya62335284 @perdricof

      Rounding 2.6 down to 4 rather than up to 5 is, in fact, generally considered the fraudulent thing to do

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

      Anyway that's an incorrect framing Our imaginary measurer here doesn't actually have access to the number 4.6, they don't see it and change the number to a 5

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

      I am talking about the many real life scenarios where measuring two quantities separately gets you a 2 and a 2 but together gets you a 5 Literally 2+2=5 (because the discrepancy is below your threshold of precision) This *always exists* in *any* measurement

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

          Can you get that through your head? It's not a special case, it's not something I'm "arguing for" It is an inevitable result of applying numbers to real physical things

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        3. Renmiri‏ @renmiri1 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

          This guy would never last in engineering school. cognitive dissonance is an epidemic larger than COVID nowadays

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        1. Orman‏ @LizardOrman 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

          Also apparently @Aya62335284 has not seen the classic science experiment where you pour 100ml of water into 100ml of ethanol and get less than 200ml of total liquid.

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        1. Rational Academic. What’s Left of the Sound Left?!‏ @Aya62335284 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof

          The crime of fraudulence is playing with thresholds of precision dishonestly.

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        1. Rip Van Wormer‏ @Ripzerai 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

          It might be helpful to think poll numbers. If Candidate X is two points ahead with a margin of error of +/-1 and goes up 2 points, they might well be 5 points ahead.

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        1. zer0jack‏ @zer0jack 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

          Is this like what a lot of us do in the kitchen? I'd put 2.3 c of batter in a pan than has a 2c fill line but I won't put 2.3c & 2.2c in a pan with a 4c fill line. The former is 2c x 2, the latter is 5c.

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        1. @HlewagastizHoltijaz‏ @HlewagastizHol1 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 @perdricof

          Sure, but try learning the statistical theory used to make sense of such situations without thoroughly understanding arithmetic and its rules. Try writing code that does interval arithmetic without thoroughly understanding ordinary arithmetic.

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