You really are Dunning-Krugering your way through this thread. You are particularly resistant to the observation that shared knowledge of a concept can be incomplete, can evolve, etc.
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Replying to @eunarthabossamy @BetaDecayPlus and
Asserting D-K is another way to argue. I guess we should seek to evolve a basic, general (and quite universal) understanding of what 2 means in an *everyday context of communication* (my point) then? 2 + 2 = 4 = Dunning Krueger 2 + 2 = 5 = shared knowledge is incomplete.
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Replying to @Aya62335284 @BetaDecayPlus and
If you really dont understand the circumstances under which 2+2=5 is a true statement, circumstances that have been thoroughly explained, then you are not cut out for this conversation. Do you or do you not understand?
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Replying to @eunarthabossamy @BetaDecayPlus and
Are these arguments (mostly focused on rounding) evidence for an evolution of how we fundamentally understand what 2 means? If so, please do cut me out of your conversation.
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Replying to @Aya62335284 @eunarthabossamy and
"2" as a concept, does not exist outside of our understanding of it.
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Replying to @BetaDecayPlus @eunarthabossamy and
2. When you see that number what does it mean? To restate: It’s funny to see you play with definitions when (and I’m not conservative) you declare absolutely that “all terrorists are conservative.” Or do you admit that’s an (ill-founded) assumption?
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Replying to @Aya62335284 @eunarthabossamy and
2 is a symbol we assign meaning to, in our number system we put it between some equally constructed numbers and go from there. That's not a fact, it's an axiom.
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Replying to @BetaDecayPlus @eunarthabossamy and
It’s an essentially universal axiom for common understanding. Go almost anywhere, write “2,” and people know what you mean. That’s a good thing. What do you mean by “all conservative are terrorists” and how in your “axiom” do you understand the Red Brigade?
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Replying to @Aya62335284 @BetaDecayPlus and
They don't actually know what you mean by it, if you start asking hard, specific questions about the definition of the symbol "2" you get annoying conversations like the one we're having right now
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BetaDecayPlus and
Who’s “they” here? I’ve been quite successful in using “2” in quite a few countries, some where I did not speak the language, and yet we magically had the same understanding.
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Yes because under real life circumstances you have to communicate a whole lot of other information besides just the number, which we mostly do without thinking about it That doesn't mean the communication didn't happen
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Aya62335284 and
Like you know the fairly fundamental difference between cardinal and ordinal numbers, right? That there are some circumstances where if I hold up two fingers I want you to give me two non-specific things and other times I want you to give me one specific thing
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