But I honestly don't think it's really that the message is "The Vox uprising shouldn't be happened, and it would be okay for the Founders' utopia to continue" The Founders' utopia was a track leading straight to Armageddon and the Vox were an attempt to stop that that failed
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
Ok but you can throw all the high-minded structural excuses at it you want, it's still a game where it explicitly has the rebellious PoC chanting triumphantly about how they're gonna rape the white women.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and
Yeah no it's a game that kind of demands a lack of nuance and then pushes nuance on you anyway You can't make a grotesquely exaggerated Jim Crow slaveocracy with minstrel shows and shit and then ask me for nuance about it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
I mean, you find out Booker was at Wounded Knee and that he's a Pinkerton literally first thing in the game, before you see Columbia or its racism So you *know* you're a bad guy if you're paying attention
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
I still consider a former Pinkerton better than a society that worships John Wilkes Booth and stones interracial couples to death with baseballs.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
Absolutely. I'm just saying that the game is saying "you are not a good person" from the start
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
I don't think in those terms, bluntly. Plenty of people do crummy things and then spend a lot of their lives trying to make up for doing the crummy thing. it's a classic noir character beat.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
I'm not entirely sure we disagree on this beat, although I think it's clear from the base game and DLC that Booker does not achieve redemption
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
If not in the base game, why else would Elizabeth kill the Rapture version of him, who ISN'T a war criminal? He's just cosmically fated to evil
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The Rapture version of him absolutely is a criminal It's the version of Comstock who tried to take Anna from his alternate self but fucked it up and killed her in the process (the closing portal cuts off her head and not her finger)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
That's the big reveal, he's not actually from Rapture, he went there to hide in a dimension where he never existed at all and he could forget about all his sins (the retcon is that Rapture was always one of the alternate universes the Finks were harvesting tech from)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
Which of course makes plenty of sense when you think about it because the timeline just does not match up; he should be a rather old man if he was naturally aged to that point.
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