This is all of course excusing the part where she gains her powers because the wonder twins managed to fuck up a portal
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I mean Elizabeth is pretty iconic in terms of this "obviously radically retrofitted from announcement to release" development shift. Remember the original gameplay trailer? With that whole scripted sequence ending in her blasting Songbird with *obvious psychic powers*?
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I don’t but that’s p funny
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Yeah, like, Infinite SO OBVIOUSLY underwent vast, vast rewrites where they were clearly having almost everything other than the aesthetics of the setting up in flux. Originally it was going to be, by the looks of it, *Elizabeth* as your big supernatural heavy hitter (cont)
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Replying to @loudpenitent @aguyuno and
with, to all appearances, temporary-use bottles-o-superpower for Booker (which ended up being permanent not!plasmids), and Elizabeth as a far more open-ended reality warper type figure with Songbird actively hunting you aggressively. This makes what we *got* a sad, pale shadow.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @aguyuno and
And there's no shame in a design doc outstripping in ambitions what the team can produce. That's a real risk and games undergo significant revision over the design process. But: it's perhaps a risk of *releasing a demo long in advance when your entire game is up in the air*.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @aguyuno and
I still dream about the game being faithful to the debut trailer and first gameplay preview. That, combined with competent writing, would have been amazing.
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Replying to @TellerGrim @loudpenitent and
Let me say this: the themes are still 10x deeper and better realized than those in The Outer Worlds
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @TellerGrim and
Strong personal disagree! I think "actually you totally DO need to keep the minorities down and the poor working 12+ hour days & bidding for wages against each other or they'll rise up and defile White Sky Utopia" is actively harmful
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Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and
Nah the back half of the game sucks but I think it's a huge mistake to say the message is "The Founders really are good and the Vox really are evil"
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It's a tragic narrative - the Founders' depravity made the Vox uprising inevitable but the Vox also giving into depravity means their own failure is inevitable
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Remember the point ends up being that the whole world ends in 1984 when Elizabeth goes mad and starts WWIII The fail state is any timeline that leads to Elizabeth seizing her full power and becoming dictator of Columbia, and the issue is *either side winning* leads to this
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
I'm not saying it portrays the Founders as "good," just that it basically plays *completely* into the white supremacist fantasy of "unless we ruthlessly oppress them all they'll do everything we did to them to us and prey upon our women and children"
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