Heh. Like I said, it's just a *weird* tonal beat for a superhero universe, as much as it's also a hilariously massive shift in "actually the universe is, at its elemental core, evil" for the sake of a single story. I just think it's funny-weird.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @ftmshepard and
The fact that Big Two/shared universe comics end up having the social dynamic of a large fandom except people don’t actually have non-intersecting sandboxes to keep their subgenres to themselves in is a bizarre dynamic when you think about it like that
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @ftmshepard and
It really is! And again, like, it's not that I inherently have any real moral objection to a setting premised upon "goodness claws its way out of primordial chaos, opposed by an elemental power of pure malice," that's ultimately what Destiny sort of is doing.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @chrysopoetics and
It's just *funny* to have a shift from Eru Illuvatar-style "evil exists only so that Good can destroy it" to "elemental good and elemental evil as cosmic equals" in the scope of a single story bc one writer wanted to make The Biggest Fear-Hulk for their story cred?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @chrysopoetics and
It's not just making a biggest monster, it's about the cosmic horror of what the Hulk was always originally about - the deep seated fear that our humanity is only a mask for the monsters within
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chrysopoetics and
But it's also absolutely 110% about Having Moar Biggatons, man, let's not pretend it's not.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @chrysopoetics and
It's about trying to give this kind of story stakes within a wacky superhero setting, sure It's because he's aware that this IS a setting where God objectively exists and doesn't want that to be the resolution to the story ("It can't be THAT bad, God's up there in Heaven")
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chrysopoetics and
See I don't even think that sort of contorted-ass logic follows. Y'don't need to up the stakes to cosmic level "annihilation of all goodness" to be "this is a horrendous thing that destroys a person's ability to live a functional healthy life."
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Replying to @loudpenitent @chrysopoetics and
But the Hulk's angst isn't just about SELF-loathing Or it doesn't have to be, that's not the darkest framing (a therapist would say acknowledging it really is only about himself would be the first step to Bruce healing)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
The Hulk's existence is a statement about the nature of the world Everything is a mask, everything is a surface, and whenever you peel that surface back you find something a lot uglier
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The trauma of child abuse isn't really just trauma over knowing your dad, in particular, was an asshole It's how your parents are your model for how you think the world as a whole behaves, for what God is like Those lessons once learned are not easily unlearned
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
It's the whole thing where religion comes in in Heart of Darkness Kurtz's fiancée, the Beloved (a very Biblical term, from the Song of Solomon), who is more or less completely defined by her faith, and the contrast she paints to both Marlow and Kurtz
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Her whole conversation with Marlow is just her insisting that whatever happened to Kurtz and however painful his death was in his last moments God must've been there, God must've comforted him, he must have left the world bathed in the warm light of his faith
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