Enh, I hadn't heard about that That doesn't seem like it's something Marvel as a whole is on board with, it's something made up specifically for the Immortal Hulk series as an exploration of the deep psychological shit of what the Hulk represents
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Oh yeah, but the series basically said the Hulk and all Gamma mutants are literally powered by ultimate Cosmic Evil from below the universe and will ultimately be hollowed out and used as a vessel for it to devour the next one and all life within, including the OAA
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
...I mean honestly that sounds pretty great. As a life-long fan of the Hulk series this has made me want to get back on the horse of reading it regularly, since most of my readings are really old, like Crossroads or Smark Hulk.
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Replying to @ftmshepard @arthur_affect and
I mean I'm not really a *fan* or anything, but I'm not super invested either way. It's just funny because it's symptomatic of both how these franchise universes undergo vast constant setting tonal drift in the Quest for More Evilons, & how writers just LOVE this (cont)
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Replying to @loudpenitent @ftmshepard and
specific sort of "the universe began in primordial evil" beat, since it seems to be undergoing a follow-the-leader renaissance in comics atm?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
This at least seems like a decent way of doing it? Like, I realize you're not pitching this to me at all, but this is a really good pitch for someone with my specific sensibilities. Evil cosmic goop hollowing the universe? Sounds like the sith without the bad skin.
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Replying to @ftmshepard @arthur_affect and
Heh. Like I said, it's just a *weird* tonal beat for a superhero universe, as much as it's also a hilariously massive shift in "actually the universe is, at its elemental core, evil" for the sake of a single story. I just think it's funny-weird.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @ftmshepard and
The fact that Big Two/shared universe comics end up having the social dynamic of a large fandom except people don’t actually have non-intersecting sandboxes to keep their subgenres to themselves in is a bizarre dynamic when you think about it like that
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @ftmshepard and
It really is! And again, like, it's not that I inherently have any real moral objection to a setting premised upon "goodness claws its way out of primordial chaos, opposed by an elemental power of pure malice," that's ultimately what Destiny sort of is doing.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @chrysopoetics and
It's just *funny* to have a shift from Eru Illuvatar-style "evil exists only so that Good can destroy it" to "elemental good and elemental evil as cosmic equals" in the scope of a single story bc one writer wanted to make The Biggest Fear-Hulk for their story cred?
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It's not just making a biggest monster, it's about the cosmic horror of what the Hulk was always originally about - the deep seated fear that our humanity is only a mask for the monsters within
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chrysopoetics and
But it's also absolutely 110% about Having Moar Biggatons, man, let's not pretend it's not.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
"The force that the Hulk represents will literally eat the universe and snuff out love itself" is totally just a Biggatons Thing. :P
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