(seriously, comics writers, I get that Mythos-style "the universe's most primal powers are of alien eldritch horror" is like nerd candy, but... it's so weird to do this with comics where they used to have an Eru Illuvatar figure.)
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
I mean it's not really new, primordial evil has always been a thing And the progenitor of Klyntar isn't the true ultimate god or anything, the whole point is he was defeated
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
I more just mean it's a strange segue to go from "the ultimate authority of the universe is the One Above All, the embodiment of good and love, who ensures heroism triumphs" to "the world began in darkness and primordial wickedness"
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
The One Above All is just the writer, Jack Kirby, he made the world have cosmic darkness and chaos and whatnot because it makes a better story
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
I'm aware. Then they added the One Below All as an equal and opposite who ultimately devours everything including the OAA.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
That's the weird bit, the shift from "We have not!Eru who creates evil so that good may destroy it and triumph" to "not!Melkor is coeval with not!Eru as a power of despair and hate, and will ultimately destroy everything."
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
Enh, I hadn't heard about that That doesn't seem like it's something Marvel as a whole is on board with, it's something made up specifically for the Immortal Hulk series as an exploration of the deep psychological shit of what the Hulk represents
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Oh yeah, but the series basically said the Hulk and all Gamma mutants are literally powered by ultimate Cosmic Evil from below the universe and will ultimately be hollowed out and used as a vessel for it to devour the next one and all life within, including the OAA
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
...I mean honestly that sounds pretty great. As a life-long fan of the Hulk series this has made me want to get back on the horse of reading it regularly, since most of my readings are really old, like Crossroads or Smark Hulk.
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Replying to @ftmshepard @arthur_affect and
I mean I'm not really a *fan* or anything, but I'm not super invested either way. It's just funny because it's symptomatic of both how these franchise universes undergo vast constant setting tonal drift in the Quest for More Evilons, & how writers just LOVE this (cont)
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No more than making up the One Above All and the Living Tribunal in the first place shoehorned everyone else's story into a theistic setting without their consent
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ftmshepard and
I mean, *wobblehand.* Yes, ultimately it's just a matter of Who Had Editorial Backing First, but there you go. idk, it's just really tonally weird to try to turn a supers universe into a Mythos universe where the ultimate power is brute hate, even for a Hulk comic. :P
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