What do you mean about that exactly, that he's a menace to the public and should go to jail?
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chrysopoetics
Well, I don't believe in jail, but I don't see anything that Spider-Man does outside of fighting the kind of supervillain that normally only arises because he did something that can't be done by someone else. So, yeah, basically.
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @chrysopoetics
I mean I don't think the idea that he actually causes more problems than he solves genuinely makes sense from a Watsonian POV
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chrysopoetics
I mean, in the MCU it's different, I think he's bad there bc he's Iron Man 2.0 with less oversight. In the PS4 game I've aired my strong objections. In everything else he seems very closely tied to all his villains (goblin, Ock, etc)
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I actually think the case that Spidey creates his villains is stronger than for most versions of Batman
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @chrysopoetics
That's really Doylist logic though, it's the horrible luck Spider-Man seems to have where everyone in his personal life gets touched by drama But mostly it's not actually his *fault*, like he didn't in any sense cause Norman Osborn to turn into the Green Goblin
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It’s only in the amazing spider-man 2 that he explicitly *causes* someone to turn evil. In every other case he’s, at worst, a catalyst.
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Yeah and even that wasn't really morally wrong per se, that was Spider-Man deciding to *not* participate in a mad science experiment likely to go horribly wrong, forcing Osborn to turn elsewhere
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Replying to @arthur_affect @beetlefella101 and
Venom, specifically, is a bad guy where you can say Spider-Man had some level of moral responsibility in causing him to exist Although part of the whole point of Eddie Brock as a character is his pathological refusal to take responsibility for his own actions
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Replying to @arthur_affect @beetlefella101 and
I mean it's the same thing as Batman, the sense in which you can say Spider-Man "causes" his villains is that his existence seems to piss a lot of people off and inspire them to try this or that mad science scheme to get powers to outdo him
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But you know, actually seriously arguing he's the one morally at fault for them deciding to do this is kind of messed up
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