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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. MissFluffy'n'Pink‏ @MFnP 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Azuaron @supersarr and

      You seem to be getting very angry about your misunderstanding of English law.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Azuaron‏ @Azuaron 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @MFnP @supersarr and

      What are you, a child, who thinks an argument can be deflected by yelling, "Look behind you!" Put up or shut up, hack. Where are the defamatory statements?

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    3. MissFluffy'n'Pink‏ @MFnP 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Azuaron @supersarr and

      Again. There are no defamatory statements until a court has made a judgement. There may be potentially defamatory statement. I might think something is defamatory. You might think that. But until tested in court they are just statements.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Azuaron‏ @Azuaron 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @MFnP @supersarr and

      "There are no murders unless a court has made a judgment." 🤣🤣🤣 Again. Courts punish defamatory statements. The statements are defamatory independent of the courts.

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    5. MissFluffy'n'Pink‏ @MFnP 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Azuaron @supersarr and

      Weird non sequitur. But in essence not 100% wrong. Which is why in England we have unlawful killing verdicts in the coroner’s courts, as well as a specific crime of manslaughter. The evidence is tested. However the relevance to defamation is tenuous to say the least

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Räv‏ @Eristae 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @MFnP @Azuaron and

      The idea that no crime is committed until the court decides it is actually beyond horrible. For example, the idea that marital rape really isn't rape when the law says it isn't is, well pretty evil.

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Eristae @MFnP and

      There's different levels of legal realism Like, there's the statutory level, and the argument over whether it makes sense to argue that something "objectively is" a crime (or "objectively should be" a crime, not quite the same thing) when the law clearly says it isn't

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Eristae and

      There's very few people who would say that the law as it is perfectly reflects the law as it should be (or there'd be no need for lawmakers)

      1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Eristae and

      Whether that means the law-as-it-should-be "exists" (and it's meaningful to say "It was a crime even though it was legal") is this philosophical thing

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Eristae and

      What FnP is arguing, about legal realism on the case-by-case level -- objectively speaking there is no individual crime until you've been convicted of it -- is very disturbing to me on a different level

      3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Eristae and

      Like it's not like saying marital rape isn't rape because it's legal, that's an argument most of us are much more comfortable with having It's saying that if you *do* break the law but you *don't get caught* then "in reality no crime occurred"

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Eristae and

          It's a very cynical POV, and it's one that is useful for certain purposes Like it's true that if in real life no one ever gets prosecuted for a crime then whatever it says on paper, that crime isn't really illegal then But that doesn't make that okay

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Eristae and

          Like from the perspective of an ordinary person in the system if you actually believe that personally then why not just do whatever your power lets you get away with If our collective faith in the law as something that really exists doesn't matter then why even have a law

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