Personal headcanon for TLOU2: just dying as Abby in the tutorial doesn't save FlannelDad. It's pretty clear Joel and Tommy are in deep sht when they find Abby, and in game they don't survive unless Abby saves them back twice.
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So, to keep with the Fate theme from the theater I think Joel was gonna die that day one way or another
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Yeah Abby brings tragedy upon herself and everyone she knows by insisting on saving Joel's life just so she, specifically, gets to kill him, and let everyone know that she killed him Which is an obsession that Ellie inherits that further brings tragedy on herself etc
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