Like the Game What Must Not Be Named Lest We Begin The Discourse Anew isn't novel in any way structurally or in its beats, it's basically standard prestige television. It is only novel in who gets to be the star. And that's not without worth! But it's not "novelty" in that sense
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Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and
Structurally it's following an extant tradition laid down by celebrated and often imitated precursors
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
Yeah but what you just said "except for" about is absolutely novelty. It's huge novelty. Immense.
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
Not in the way that a professional creator or critic would necessarily see it though, that's my point.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
Only because the standards of professional criticism are homophobic/transphobic, unless you have a counter to that? I think it's fine to just innovate one thing
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
No, because professional critics and creators are being made to capitalistically regurgitate these things over and over again to make a living while their superiors and investors tell them to do stuff their hearts aren't in.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
I really don't think that applies at this point to either the Coen Bros or Naughty Dog. Both can get away with almost anything.
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
I can almost guarantee you both of them had to do their time replicating humdrum crowd pleasers and almost certainly still get executive pushback.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and
Okay on this point you're objectively wrong The Coens' jadedness comes from their lifelong history as movie *viewers*, since childhood They did not have any "phase" of their career where they were doing Michael Bay movies and rebelled against it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Subversion and deconstruction has always been their brand, since their debut with Blood Simple, and it's popular because they're good at it and those things are popular
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I really dislike authenticity narratives in either direction and I especially hate this narrative that "normies who just like movies don't share any of the aesthetic tastes you people develop from working in the industry"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
It is perfectly possible to get sick of movie cliches simply from watching movies Probably easier in some ways
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
I didn't say that, but you should probably not be engaging in the equally irritating performative proclamation of "Well jaded cynicism is REAL and LITERATE not like those stupid sincere vapid folks," then, and we can both avoid irritating each other.
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