If an army of vaccinated soldiers can't be raised within a generation to clear the Infected hives from the cities, there probably won't ever be one A generation from now it'll be the Clickers clearing out the survivors instead
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
I mean this is a bit of ludonarrative consonance, this is reflected in the gameplay This is why all your weapons have extremely limited ammo or they break after a few uses, and you constantly have to scrounge for supplies to make more
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You just set the damn cities on fire, Arthur.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
Like I said - yes, the world-that-was is gone. But it's still gone whether or not you made an extremely limited vaccine. The dream of bringing it back, embodied in clinging to pointless empty cities instead of torching places you don't use and manufacturing nothing, is poison.
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Okay, well, so much for having surgeons who can save people from dying after minor injuries in the future either then
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Shit, the status quo in the future, the decent life people are able to manage to eke out in places like Jackson, *depends* on scroungers braving zombie-infested cities to loot them for their treasures That's Joel and Tess' whole job in 1
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Torching all that and going "We'll just live off the land!", which is never brought up diegetically in the story as a possible solution, is also clearly a deeply fucked up idea
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Two words. Hydroelectric dam. Hell the Seraphites are clearly manufacturing their own tools and weapons. I just think ppl are attached to the idea This Doomed Humanity bc it turns "saving Ellie" into a grand Made Ya Think transgression as opposed to "of course, fuck this shit"
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I mean I do think the first game very clearly is meant to AT LEAST make us think Joel killed people who were understandable and had good motives and that his choice has great cost
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If the Fireflies are simply evil/deluded and Joel's action uncomplicatedly correct then the first game becomes a lot stupider and more pointless
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I mean even Joel clearly doesn't actually believe this or he wouldn't feel the need to lie to Ellie about it He doesn't push back at all on Ellie believing Joel did a horrible thing she can't forgive him for
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