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    Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Jul 2020

    Arthur Chu Retweeted @ijbailey

    There's been plenty of research showing that the idea that a nonstandard dialect of English is just someone being "lazy" or "sloppy" and that you can turn them into standard English speakers by just berating them to work harder is tremendously damaginghttps://twitter.com/ijbailey/status/1285932872138883072 …

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    @ijbailey @ijbailey
    Replying to @thomaschattwill
    There's a lot of evidence, from top linguists and other researchers, that we have hampered the ability of certain segments of our society - particularly poor black kids - to get a better handle on Standard English because we don't acknowledge that their home speech is legit.
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      2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Jul 2020

        English and, say, Dutch are fairly similar languages That doesn't mean it would be helpful to teach a Dutch speaker English by calling Dutch "bad English" and yelling at them every time they slip into it

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      3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Jul 2020

        Specifically the original Ebonics controversy centered around people noticing that English teachers like to do a lot of condescending interrupting in the middle of someone talking, treating a use of nonstandard grammar as a "mistake" or "slip"

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      4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Jul 2020

        "It don't feel like --" "It DOESN'T feel like" This is really fucking annoying, and it doesn't actually teach anyone anything It disrupts your original train of thought and just makes you frustrated

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      5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Jul 2020

        Again it's based on the idea that using the "wrong" verb here is the result of just being "lazy" or "not paying attention" If you actually understood that AAVE was its own consistent language with its own set of rules you wouldn't act like that

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      6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Jul 2020

        The point of "Ebonics" education wasn't to teach the whole curriculum in "Ebonics" and never speak Standard English It was to treat AAVE as its own language and treat learning Standard English as a second language, no different than teaching a Spanish speaker English

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      7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Jul 2020

        You don't interrupt someone with "DOESN'T, not don't", you let them finish their original statement in AAVE and then *translate* it into Standard English with the two sentences side by side There's nothing controversial about this unless you consider AAVE itself a shameful thing

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      1. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 22 Jul 2020
        Replying to @arthur_affect

        There's really no better proof of this than the fact that the average conservative can't manage like, six words of convincing AAVE.

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      2. Dr. Samantha Hancox-Li‏ @perdricof 22 Jul 2020
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        acknowledging that you are in fact teaching someone a new sort of grammar--a new and distinct dialect of english--when you teach them academic style is the only way to do it effectively

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      3. Dr. Samantha Hancox-Li‏ @perdricof 22 Jul 2020
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        it gets away from guilt and towards actual learning

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      1. Maureen 🥀‏ @Maureen_Lapis 22 Jul 2020
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        There are plenty of countries/ languages where “formal” speech varies much more from spoken dialect than in Standard English, and they manage to teach children the Standard dialect fine.

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