The death of Billy Graham should have been a cause for celebration because fuck that guy. But then his body got displayed in the fucking Capitol Rotunda because people don't understand that the fact that he has victims is exactly why he gets to be remembered well and they don't
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Because that IS FUNDAMENTALLY HOW THIS SHIT WORKS. Victims of violence are part of an enduring legacy of being shit on and the very FACT of us having been brutalized and violated is PRECISELY WHAT ENSHRINES PEOPLE AS HEROES. Hurting us has ALWAYS been a winning proposition
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fundamentally I think it's just going to get harder and harder to take down monuments to white nationalist figures and also that most of the gains people made will get reversed because the fact of the matter is that the right to traumatize us is fucking sacred to these people
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History is an unstoppable cycle of monstrous people being elevated to godhood FOR feeding on the bodies and souls of their victims Their crimes are so sacrosanct, their horrors regarded as such a unilateral good that their memory is more heavily valued than actual human life
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The people who hurt innocents will always inevitably prevail over them—in life and in memory—because to hurt innocents is literally the main objective of the entire fucking game. Abusers get to be loved, and the people they've hurt get to be forgotten
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Replying to @Nymphomachy
This thread hit some feelings I remember from back when. Thought I'd share a view: These abusers have a sort of fundamental flaw: they can't imagine a better world than one where their behavior is justified. I think it reflects a kind of stupidity that can be overcome.
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Replying to @Kritwal @Nymphomachy
You also mentioned, "nobody decent ever gets to win in the end" ... it all reminds me of Nietzsche; the strong oppress because it's what they do. I think it takes a damaged mind to reach for that power, and we're not prepared for it because we don't work that way.
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Replying to @Kritwal @Nymphomachy
I think it’s that when you have power you have the power to not be accountable for misusing that power
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Replying to @Cybren @Nymphomachy
Right, so I think those of us who have power need to find ways to empower each other, so that we can hold truly bad people accountable.
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Well while we're on Nietzsche this is why he believed Sklavenmoral has to have a different structure than Herrenmoral The weak, while they remain the weak, can only hold and exercise power collectively If one of them becomes strong, by definition he defects to the other side
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Honestly this is also very close to how Marx saw things The ruling class does things the way they do because they are the ruling class If one of them, out of a pang of individual conscience, stopped, they'd just fall out of that class and be replaced by someone willing to play
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Kritwal and
Which is why revolutions based on the idea of replacing evil kings with good kings or evil billionaires with good billionaires so predictably fail
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Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, but I've not really read a lot of philosophers; just have bits of things I picked up from low level classes at CC about a decade ago. I remember having an obsession trying to merge Kant and Nietzsche for some reason. Never read Marx.
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