The only thing he has that makes him not want to just lie down and let the spores get him is his relationship with Tess and even that is starting to wear thin She pokes hard at that sore spot when she screams "What do you know about 'us', about me"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @beetlefella101 and
The ending of 1 is him deliberately choosing not to be that guy anymore, shedding that skin because he can't stand to wear it one more day His life in Jackson is about this desperate need to go back to being the decent guy he was pre-zombies and pretend that's who he always was
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Replying to @arthur_affect @beetlefella101 and
Which, tragically, is exactly why the scenario in 2 is inevitable The new Joel is no longer the "survivor" he used to be and that means he will not survive If not Abby's crew then some other chickens coming home to roost
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Replying to @arthur_affect @beetlefella101 and
I don't know if it's really that either though. You can take Joel, or Ellie, or Abby, or any other character in the games that could be tangentially described as 'main' and make arguments both for and against their behavior at nearly any point. "We contain multitudes", etc etc.
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Replying to @Mishyana @beetlefella101 and
My argument isn't really about whether Joel *deserves* to be killed so much as that he's *going* to be killed one way or another
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Replying to @arthur_affect @beetlefella101 and
Yes and no? He's only "going to be killed" in a world where you can ascribe a very polarized morality to his actions. In a world where there are definite Good Guys and Bad Guys and the Bad Guys always Get What's Coming To Them.
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Replying to @Mishyana @beetlefella101 and
Whether or not his actions were justified - and probably in a lot of cases they were and the people he antagonized were very very bad people, like David's crew - he has nonetheless objectively harmed a lot of people and made them very angry
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Replying to @arthur_affect @beetlefella101 and
This plays into my overall take on the game, in that they weren't saying revenge is 'bad', per se; as I've said before, they don't really give a pass to anyone. I think they were saying that revenge is ultimately futile; you're inevitably going to wrong someone with loved ones.
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Replying to @Mishyana @beetlefella101 and
Yeah, the real appeal here isn't to conscience - it fully embraces the idea that if someone hurts someone you love badly enough, hatred is the only humane response It's just the practical appeal - okay so we tried revenge and it doesn't work, it doesn't stop
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Mishyana and
Ultimately it's just that revenge is EXHAUSTING You don't have enough gas in the tank to hate everyone who deserves your hatred and take them all down, no one does At some point you have to pack it in and let it go for your own sake
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The last scene where Ellie and Abby are both so broken down and tired they can barely stand up against the waves, they're both this close to just falling into the water and drowning themselves
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