For VAs I mean
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @aguyuno
They did hire the Squad for SWTOR. Although that was developed in the US and not Canada, not sure if that makes a difference
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @aguyuno
Anyway, why would unions lead to the same five people always getting hired? It's not like you always see the same construction companies in union states or whatever, the point isn't to be anticompetitive
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @aguyuno
It is to a degree, the whole point is it means if you want to hire from the union you can *only* hire from the union, so it's a binary choice
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Replying to @arthur_affect @aguyuno
I take it the reason people don't join the union is bc they have to charge more then? In any case I can't imagine Joe McUnion the VA who is just getting started but joined the union gets paid the same rate as Nolan North, so it's still a financial cost to hire the big names?
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It's the catch 22 of to get the union you have to work on a bunch of shows, and for animation (voice work) almost all of it is union. If you're an established union voice actor, you'll get continual work.
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Replying to @ashleylynch @BootlegGirl and
Every animated show I work on will end up having voice actors from other shows I've worked on. You see the same stable of people over and over.
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I don't quite get it. I know some professional groups that do some union like roles, like the Science Fiction Writers of America, require x (roles/publications) to get in, but if it's a closed union shop how can that even work?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @ashleylynch and
Like the SFWA can work like that bc tons of publications take work from non-SFWA members and there's no penalty for not being in it but with a union that's not the case, yes?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @ashleylynch and
My union experience is when you're entering an industry you traditionally get basically drafted into the union, as every company I've worked for is a union shop. It's not really something you "get" to join.
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This is because the original concept of unions was designed for a stable set of employees at a specific physical workplace, not for "gig work", and adapts poorly to such environments
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BeardedJarl and
A union is the modern evolution of a guild, which existed in communities that were small and close-knit enough that the idea really was "If I want to be a carpenter, I go apply to become one and the carpenters get together and decide if they want to let me join"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BeardedJarl and
"And if they do, they invest a lot of effort into training me, and once I'm trained it's their responsibility to help me get carpentry work" This ideal of how it should work, if it was ever as rosy as it's portrayed, is unsustainable in modern capitalism
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