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    1. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @della_morte_ @loudpenitent

      I don't contest that at all. Squaring away the relationship between the two, or reconciling the social good of the latter with the evils of Christianity as a whole and historically, isn't my work to do or a particularly pressing issue so I generally leave the subject alone.

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    2. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy @della_morte_ @loudpenitent

      What aggravates me is feeling like the existence of the latter gets brought up as some kind _vindication_ of the entire history of Christianity and its theology, as if that doesn't piss on literally billions of victims of the faith and uncountable destroyed cultures

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    3. della ~ mothra shrine maiden‏ @della_morte_ 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy @loudpenitent

      She’s not really doing that in the thread? She’s saying that her belief in Christianity is not rooted in its history of white supremacy and settler colonialism but to its historical roots (and the Black liberation tradition here). You can say that’s cherry-picking but...

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    4. della ~ mothra shrine maiden‏ @della_morte_ 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @della_morte_ @Nymphomachy @loudpenitent

      It’s also not defending Christianity as a whole; in fact it’s how she makes a strong case for condemning white evangelical Christianity in particular (which is entirely imo a force for oppression).

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    5. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @della_morte_ @loudpenitent

      I mean it looks to me like she's arguing that Christianity was only ever colonial/imperialist in the hands of colonialists/imperialists, that it had no formative role in these ideologies as we know them, which to me seems like a laundering of some of the core tenets of the faith?

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    6. della ~ mothra shrine maiden‏ @della_morte_ 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy @loudpenitent

      She doesn’t get into theology there (except to talk about the Black liberation view of the Christian mission being to free the oppressed from bondage). This is how she sees her own personal faith and how she squares it with her work and larger belief system, not an excuse, to me.

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    7. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @della_morte_ @loudpenitent

      Mm. I guess I could understand that reading? The specific things she brings up and the language she uses here still feels aggressive to me both as a MOGAI person and someone extremely frustrated with the extent to which Christianity has erased their ancestral spiritual tradition?

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    8. della ~ mothra shrine maiden‏ @della_morte_ 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy @loudpenitent

      I can’t stand Christianity/Christian exceptionalism/jargon etc in almost any context (and certainly none involving white Christians). I just really don’t think she belongs anywhere near that category, certainly not due to this thread here.

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    9. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @della_morte_ @loudpenitent

      To be _very clear_, I don't think that she, or her faith or Black Christianity as a whole have any business being lumped in with that of white Christians (or, like, Korean Christians, even). I just think any non-deleterious Christianity should be treated as a neoreligion

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    10. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy @della_morte_ @loudpenitent

      (Which, like, as an adherent of a neoreligion, I don't mean as derogatory, like she stops just short of saying as much herself) To me, framing modern social justice movements as being true to an older, more "authentic", pre-Constantine Christianity is, uh, not encouraging to me

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy @della_morte_ @loudpenitent

      Every single Christian movement claims this There's so little knowledge about the "authentic" original Christians you can say anything you want about them

      6:59 PM - 15 Jul 2020
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        2. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 15 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and

          They were really online, though, we know that.

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        3. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 15 Jul 2020
          Replying to @mssilverstein @arthur_affect and

          My overall thought here is just that when we're talking about 2000 years and billions of people, generalizations aren't that helpful. It's just on every side of every argument.

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        1. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 15 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @della_morte_

          And what we know of the time Christianity was *codified* into its modern form, as opposed to the vague Beforetimes, is it was codified and structured into a cohesive form with the active sponsorship of an imperial power

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