CW: description of violence What *matters* to a reading of the work is a discussion of technique and data, but if we can't even agree on "setting a man ablaze while he shrieks in pain and fear and his friends scream in anguish, awesome or horrific?!" no bases can be established.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @OneiricCanid and
And there you're coming back to "Ellie [me, real person, for disambiguation here] is a bad person for enjoying the game"
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @OneiricCanid and
"Bad person" is a judgment you're applying to it, not me. I'm just saying if we don't even agree on whether such depictions are supposed to be "badass!" or "oh fuck, no, no, oh god" then we *cannot be said to be using the same vocabulary*
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Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and
Didn't
@chrysopoetics talk about feeling alienated because people just assumed the sadistic impulse wasn't a valid response to this conversation1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Not "I think there's artistic value in making the violence visceral so it will be unpleasant" but "I find the visceral violence pleasant" "If the enemies don't truly suffer when you kill them then what's the point of doing so"
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @arthur_affect and
(See also: I am honestly /still/ processing the various conversations I’ve had with other writers about their needing to, for personal comfort, make characters subject to violence be a minimum level of unlikable even though they weren’t going for comeuppance/“deserving it”/etc.)
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @arthur_affect and
With respect, Cyrus? I find that *scary as fuck*.
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @arthur_affect and
The part about active sadism for its own sake. *shrug*
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Kreia going "WTF dude" in KotOR 2 to either absurdly LS or DS actions was pretty great A beggar going "spare some change" and you either give him $100 cash or you give him a lightsaber to the gut for daring to speak to you
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Both are, after all, wildly unrealistic actions taken by someone who just doesn't really think this game is real, which is the whole thing about you the PC that she's both fascinated and repulsed by
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
I just watched Palm Springs and the whole "Everyone's an NPC" thing is really thoughtprovoking
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