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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @OneiricCanid @segfaultvicta and

      Ellie started off with the claim that she did not understand why Papers Please, a game released in a much less troubled year, was accepted while TLOU2 got a decidedly mixed reception, and concluded the answer MUST be intolerance. (cont)

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    2. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @OneiricCanid and

      I and Lido have explained, at length, how we felt this was not a reasonable conclusion, citing that the game *actively wants you to feel disgusted*, the methods it uses to do so, and the cultural climate in which it was released.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @OneiricCanid and

      Ellie says these methods do not work for her and are therefore not real or are imagined, whereas my point was to say "well, no, the devs absolutely have been quite up front with how they intended the audience to feel, and it clearly worked for a lot of people."

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. His Bark Materials  🌌‏ @OneiricCanid 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @segfaultvicta and

      Yes, but why does that matter to a reading of the work, exactly? I didn't finish TLOU because I didn't like playing as Joel. My disgust at playing as him, and the fact I didn't finish it, are not relevant to what that work is doing on a critical level, particularly.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @OneiricCanid @segfaultvicta and

      CW: description of violence What *matters* to a reading of the work is a discussion of technique and data, but if we can't even agree on "setting a man ablaze while he shrieks in pain and fear and his friends scream in anguish, awesome or horrific?!" no bases can be established.

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    6. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @OneiricCanid and

      And there you're coming back to "Ellie [me, real person, for disambiguation here] is a bad person for enjoying the game"

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    7. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @OneiricCanid and

      "Bad person" is a judgment you're applying to it, not me. I'm just saying if we don't even agree on whether such depictions are supposed to be "badass!" or "oh fuck, no, no, oh god" then we *cannot be said to be using the same vocabulary*

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and

      Didn't @chrysopoetics talk about feeling alienated because people just assumed the sadistic impulse wasn't a valid response to this conversation

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

      Not "I think there's artistic value in making the violence visceral so it will be unpleasant" but "I find the visceral violence pleasant" "If the enemies don't truly suffer when you kill them then what's the point of doing so"

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

      I guess in our post-Columbine world we're all trying to distance ourselves from the era of Postal and the like

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

      I am thinking back to old CRPGs and how Bioware's idea of Renegade Shepard is supposed to be more nuanced than old school Evil characters but there was a certain integrity in having Evil just be straight up Evil

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        1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

          Like KotOR 1 - not 2, KotOR 1, the wholesome one - has the Dark Side path force you to mind control Zaalbar into executing his best friend Mission while she tearfully begs him to stop and he vainly struggles against your command

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        2. Nivenus‏ @nivenus 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

          That, plus really Renegade and Closed Fist characters are honestly just assholes anyway if you play them that way all the way. They're just *banal* assholes (except Closed Fist which really is basically just a Dark Side playthrough despite all the fuss).

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        3. Nivenus‏ @nivenus 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @nivenus @arthur_affect and

          Like "Paragon" vs. "Renegade" isn't really that much more nuanced that "good" vs. "evil" it's just that Renegade playthroughs don't let you be *as* evil as being evil in Baldur's Gate or DS in KotOR.

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        2. Dr. Samantha Hancox-Li‏ @perdricof 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          my hot take is that the Renegade notion undergoes serious transformation from 1 to 2. in ME1 the renegade options really are sorta bad and mean-spirited. in ME2 they've sanded off the rough edges, and now it's just shepard not having any patience for bullshit.

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        3. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and

          There's a certain basic problem in that ultimately classic Evil is just kind of petty and uninteresting, more than it being "unrealistic." Trump is pretty much classic hardcore Evil as fuck. He's also, you know, monstrously boring and intolerable to have in your world.

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