So what, now you're generally suspicious of parental rights and responsibilities in general? I really don't get the point here.
-
-
The instant you start saying "rights and responsibilities" I am instantly EXTREMELY suspicious Parenting is not a right and does not entail rights It is all responsibility
1 reply 10 retweets 83 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @spqtemple02 and
Look, I didn't even actually say I want to abolish the family unit and raise children in communal creches But the thing is the people who try to make a case for responsible, accountable parenting are always the ones who scare the fuck out of me when talking about it
2 replies 3 retweets 33 likes -
i'm not in favor of the creche thing either but i feel like it would not be worse then some of the situations out there
1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes -
Replying to @ianbobmorris @arthur_affect and
My main problem is we don't have super good data on it (that I know of, please send me some). If it works better, then let's get rid of be nuclear family (which is already usually toxic) and implement a new system.
2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes -
Replying to @Includius @ianbobmorris and
In what universe would that ever happen? People aren't just going to surrender their children to the state and all attempts have shown that you can't convince large populations of your creche ideal.
2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @spqtemple02 @Includius and
Ah, so we've switched over from the question of what *should* happen to what we can realistically expect to happen Of course I don't realistically expect parents to surrender power -- I don't expect anyone who has power to surrender it without a fight
1 reply 2 retweets 22 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @spqtemple02 and
I do think that, as a society, the demographic transition and a smaller percentage of our population being parents is both a reflection of increased standards for parents and makes it easier for adults to take a moral stance limiting parental power, as a feedback loop
2 replies 1 retweet 17 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @Includius and
I don't think it's so much increased standards for parents as an increase in socially acceptable life choices that don't involve building a traditional family with kids.
2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @spqtemple02 @Includius and
No, it's both It's pretty obvious that one reason people are "intimidated" by having kids today and opt out of it is the perception that if you don't do everything possible to give your kids the best possible life you are a bad person for having them
3 replies 1 retweet 26 likes
Conservatives think this is in itself a social problem and try to push back on it Bryan Caplan's "Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids" was a book that famously took the stance that parents should give themselves a break, that parents are too hard on themselves
-
-
Replying to @arthur_affect @spqtemple02 and
"You've already done the most important thing, you've given the child the gift of existence in the first place As long as you meet your other obligations at a basic level you should view bringing them into the world as a wholly positive thing" I hate this mindset passionately
3 replies 5 retweets 39 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @spqtemple02 and
I strongly believe that the idea of parenting SHOULD be intimidating, that a parent who falls short of giving their child the best possible childhood IS culpable for doing them a great harm, and therefore far, far fewer people should be parents
3 replies 10 retweets 52 likes - Show replies
New conversation -
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.