The stigma against children.... ?
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Replying to @ChrisJKennedy
do you think 16 year olds should vote? lots of people don't.
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Replying to @nberlat @ChrisJKennedy
Do you think 15 year olds should vote? Do you think 14 year olds should vote? Do you think 13 year olds should vote? Do you think 12 year olds should be able to enter contracts? It's arbitrary but necessary. Children shouldn't be burdened with such responsibilities and freedom.
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If I actually believed all or even most kids had parents who were genuinely both willing and able to look out for their interests on their behalf it would be much easier for me to agree with you
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So what, now you're generally suspicious of parental rights and responsibilities in general? I really don't get the point here.
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The instant you start saying "rights and responsibilities" I am instantly EXTREMELY suspicious Parenting is not a right and does not entail rights It is all responsibility
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Replying to @arthur_affect @spqtemple02 and
Look, I didn't even actually say I want to abolish the family unit and raise children in communal creches But the thing is the people who try to make a case for responsible, accountable parenting are always the ones who scare the fuck out of me when talking about it
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i'm not in favor of the creche thing either but i feel like it would not be worse then some of the situations out there
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Replying to @ianbobmorris @arthur_affect and
My main problem is we don't have super good data on it (that I know of, please send me some). If it works better, then let's get rid of be nuclear family (which is already usually toxic) and implement a new system.
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Replying to @Includius @ianbobmorris and
In what universe would that ever happen? People aren't just going to surrender their children to the state and all attempts have shown that you can't convince large populations of your creche ideal.
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Ah, so we've switched over from the question of what *should* happen to what we can realistically expect to happen Of course I don't realistically expect parents to surrender power -- I don't expect anyone who has power to surrender it without a fight
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Replying to @arthur_affect @spqtemple02 and
I do think that, as a society, the demographic transition and a smaller percentage of our population being parents is both a reflection of increased standards for parents and makes it easier for adults to take a moral stance limiting parental power, as a feedback loop
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Replying to @arthur_affect @spqtemple02 and
(This is exactly what conservatives complain about every day, of course -- "Childless adults with nothing better to do but meddle in other people's families" As usual I'm the kind of person where my position is pointing to dire Republican prophecies and saying "I support that")
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