Weren't they gonna lobotomize a little girl
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @LususNaturae0
No, lobotomizing her would be cruel, they were going to kill her and cut her brain to pieces
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LususNaturae0
Yeah I mean to be clear if I were Max Caulfield and somebody tried to get revenge on me for Arcadia Bay I would eviscerate them and feel fucking fantastic about it
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @LususNaturae0
Yeah well I mean I hate to get all trolley-problem-y but the whole point of TLoU 2 is to make you reckon with that shit It's a lot easier to say "I only care about my daughter and fuck the rest of the world" when "the rest of the world" is an amorphous abstract blob
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To be fair, one can also legitimately question whether they were ACTUALLY going to find anything useful vivisecting Ellie (and whether they were *actually* going to ask for her consent). It's more like a trolley problem where you can only see what's on one set of tracks.
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They were never going to ask for her consent, she was unconscious and they were going to kill her before she could wake up
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Felgraf_Physics and
Like the thing is both Joel and Marlene understand that asking a 14-year-old for consent in this situation, one way or another, is grotesque It's why Joel deliberately chooses to lie to Ellie about what happened, for the rest of her life if need be
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Oh, I agree. It might have been slightly less fucked up to let her grow up to 18, then ask, but that's still. Screwed. But it's an interesting trolley-problem variant, because... we don't know they'd have found *anything* useful.
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Replying to @Felgraf_Physics @arthur_affect and
They had a sample size of 1. No one else like her to compare her to. Unless she had 1, and *ONLY* one unique thing about her brain structure (and how on earth could they replicate it? Give other people different brain structures?...?), then..--well.
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Replying to @Felgraf_Physics @arthur_affect and
It's "Kid tied to one track, MAYBE people tied to the other."
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Leaving it ambiguous whether a cure would've been possible at all makes the ending of TLoU 1 go down easier but makes it harder to make the guilt-and-recrimination cycle in TLoU 2 work, which is I why I think of this as something they basically retconned
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Felgraf_Physics and
Jerry wasn't really a character in TLoU 1 at all and when they created him in TLoU 2 they did their best to make us think he knows what he's talking about and he's sincere (although, sure, you can think he's a delusional narcissistic Dr. Mengele if that works better for you)
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