Weren't they gonna lobotomize a little girl
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @LususNaturae0
No, lobotomizing her would be cruel, they were going to kill her and cut her brain to pieces
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LususNaturae0
Yeah I mean to be clear if I were Max Caulfield and somebody tried to get revenge on me for Arcadia Bay I would eviscerate them and feel fucking fantastic about it
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @LususNaturae0
Yeah well I mean I hate to get all trolley-problem-y but the whole point of TLoU 2 is to make you reckon with that shit It's a lot easier to say "I only care about my daughter and fuck the rest of the world" when "the rest of the world" is an amorphous abstract blob
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TLoU 2 just shoves it in your face that "the rest of the world" includes, say, a homeless trans teen who has no idea what happened in the last game
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Which is why the idea that including Lev in the game is somehow unfair or manipulative is kind of silly I mean what if Abby had never met him that means no one like him exists in the whole world
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LususNaturae0
Yeah I mean it's not even a GOOD manipulation because I've been in this discourse long enough that you can't expect me to warm up to someone on the basis of their transness alone
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There are ways in which video games are particularly *bad* at making me care about someone, especially when their vulnerability makes the game harder.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @Nymphomachy and
It can happen in other mediums too, where the hero is slowed down by the person being rescued, say. But there's just so much TIME in a lot of game versions of this.
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One of the reasons people fell in love with TLoU 1 is that they deliberately tried to make Ellie subvert the idea of an "escort mission" character She actively does her best to help you and is surprisingly competent, you feel a rush of gratitude when she saves you
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That's even text, the multilayered meanings when Marlene tells Joel "I don't know how the hell you made it this far" and Joel mumbles, "...It was her" It's when you finally know for a fact that Marlene telling Joel the truth is signing her own death sentence
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