Because, the devs were the ones who set up these bullshit stakes to begin with, right? They're the ones who decided to set in stone the things they set in stone. You can't make the Wardens NOT force-conscript you. You can't make mages NOT be oppressed. So you take what you get.
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If your characters are not going to be nice to me, I dunno why you'd have this expectation that I would conduct myself by your own moral code. Far from it, I will meticulously chase down every teensy weensy bit of slack you left me and use it to tear the whole narrative apart
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Anyway I got to thinking about this because of what I've heard about The Last Of Us Part 2. I'm given to understand these games are linear and cinematic (I wanted to try the first one but it's not on Steam so welp), and therefore makes your protagonist behave in dissonant ways
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And like I have not heard of a single character in this game that, in the role of a protagonist, I would feel the slightest qualm about unceremoniously mowing down. And I mean that literally. Not. A single. Character.
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Oh, you want me to hesitate? Bitch, the only reason they're not already giving Gaea the crimson kiss is because you programmed a cutscene here. Don't insult me by pretending we're simpatico. If you gave me the breathing room of an old Bioware game this would look real different
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This is why I just can't take "this game is about the horror of violence" seriously You didn't *let me* make the smart, ethical choice, and now you want me to feel guilty about that? No, and also fuck you.
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@BootlegGirl that the idea that evoking guilt as an emotion means you, the player in the real world, are actually meant to literally feel guilty is silly It's a highly immature idea of what games are about that we can't seem to get past1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes -
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Like the weirdos whose reaction to Undertale was to get the Golden Ending and then put the save file on a flash drive so it can never be corrupted That wasn't the point, it really is just a game, if you actually literally feel bad for playing the Genocide ending that's dumb
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I don't know if you're calling me dumb or what, but maybe I should put it like this: if it seems like a game is trying to make me regret a forced choice, I am more likely to regret playing the game at all I identify with the characters I role-play, "dumb" or not
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But that's how the genre of tragedy works There's a whole set of emotional responses that can only happen if the main character of a story does something they regret
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I mean, I've been an actor before, I've identified very strongly with characters who've made awful, indefensible decisions I felt really bad while I was doing it, crying and sobbing and dry heaving etc That was the point, that was what I signed up for
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Like this is I think a fundamental disconnect over what playing a game, specifically a narrative game, even is, what the point of it is If the definition of "game" is it's a passing world simulator and/or power fantasy enabler then fine TLoU is "not even a game"
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But I mean, it doesn't have to be a game to be interesting or of value
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