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Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 7 Jul 2020

      It's not JUST about manipulation. Like, all stories try to elicit a certain response out of you, right? But, y'know, sometimes the very premises you're working from are garbage. Ferelden fucking sucks. It's an unjust, racist, theofascist garbage country and it can burn.

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    2. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 7 Jul 2020

      Like I reject your premises that these characters are doing acceptable things. That they're likeable or that I owe them anything. You didn't adequately make the case to me that the world you've envisioned deserves anything from the character I made other than her disdain.

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    3. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 7 Jul 2020

      Like why the fuck would I let Alistair—or any of these characters with worldviews that border on offensive—throw a tantrum at me when the world's at stake, and go unpunished? No, screw that. I'm gonna fuck them up. Maybe you meant for that to make me feel evil. It did not.

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    4. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 7 Jul 2020

      Because, the devs were the ones who set up these bullshit stakes to begin with, right? They're the ones who decided to set in stone the things they set in stone. You can't make the Wardens NOT force-conscript you. You can't make mages NOT be oppressed. So you take what you get.

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    5. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 7 Jul 2020

      If your characters are not going to be nice to me, I dunno why you'd have this expectation that I would conduct myself by your own moral code. Far from it, I will meticulously chase down every teensy weensy bit of slack you left me and use it to tear the whole narrative apart

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    6. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 7 Jul 2020

      Anyway I got to thinking about this because of what I've heard about The Last Of Us Part 2. I'm given to understand these games are linear and cinematic (I wanted to try the first one but it's not on Steam so welp), and therefore makes your protagonist behave in dissonant ways

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    7. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 7 Jul 2020

      And like I have not heard of a single character in this game that, in the role of a protagonist, I would feel the slightest qualm about unceremoniously mowing down. And I mean that literally. Not. A single. Character.

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    8. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 7 Jul 2020

      Oh, you want me to hesitate? Bitch, the only reason they're not already giving Gaea the crimson kiss is because you programmed a cutscene here. Don't insult me by pretending we're simpatico. If you gave me the breathing room of an old Bioware game this would look real different

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    9. jmatonak‏ @jmatonak 7 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      This is why I just can't take "this game is about the horror of violence" seriously You didn't *let me* make the smart, ethical choice, and now you want me to feel guilty about that? No, and also fuck you.

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jmatonak @Nymphomachy

      I kind of agree with @BootlegGirl that the idea that evoking guilt as an emotion means you, the player in the real world, are actually meant to literally feel guilty is silly It's a highly immature idea of what games are about that we can't seem to get past

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @jmatonak and

      Like the weirdos whose reaction to Undertale was to get the Golden Ending and then put the save file on a flash drive so it can never be corrupted That wasn't the point, it really is just a game, if you actually literally feel bad for playing the Genocide ending that's dumb

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @jmatonak and

          I saw a comment from @chrysopoetics I liked, which is that sadomasochism is a valid form of pleasure in and of itself without needing justification beyond that

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @jmatonak and

          Violence can be aesthetically pleasing because it's balletic, poetic and cathartic and it can also be pleasing because it's brutal and ugly and horrifying and tragic

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        2. Hoydenne‏ @iridienne 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @jmatonak and

          I mean, i feel genuinely bad about stuff like that, tbh -- i can't play bad guys in games! -- but I'm objectively pretty fucking broken, too.

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        3. Amelia Parody Account (but also her real account)‏ @autogynamelia 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @iridienne @arthur_affect and

          Weirdly, for me, it's not necessarily even doing evil stuff that gets me. It's getting called out by the NPCs for doing evil stuff. The guilt gnaws at me.

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        2. jmatonak‏ @jmatonak 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @BootlegGirl

          I don't know if you're calling me dumb or what, but maybe I should put it like this: if it seems like a game is trying to make me regret a forced choice, I am more likely to regret playing the game at all I identify with the characters I role-play, "dumb" or not

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @jmatonak @Nymphomachy @BootlegGirl

          But that's how the genre of tragedy works There's a whole set of emotional responses that can only happen if the main character of a story does something they regret

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        2. Amelia Parody Account (but also her real account)‏ @autogynamelia 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @jmatonak and

          Hi, I'm dumb.

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        2. Matthew Vilter‏ @MatthewVilter 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @jmatonak and

          I think in theory there is room for another angle to this where the game /is/ trying to elicit something like guilt in the player by, say, a plot twist that makes you reevaluate choices you had been confidentially on board with.

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        3. Matthew Vilter‏ @MatthewVilter 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @MatthewVilter @arthur_affect and

          Like if the game can get you emotionally invested in a line of reasoning and then show that line of reasoning as false and evil it might um "make you think" so to speak?

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