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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      Yeah she's a huge hypocrite but I dunno that that's the same thing as being insincere exactly

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy

      I mean keep in mind that I find the thesis that Janice Raymond's school of "radical feminism" is just a dark mirror of Catholic doctrine pretty convincing

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      Hmm, but would Dworkin and Raymond scan as being part of the same feminism?

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      Dworkin blurbed The Transsexual Empire

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    5. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      ah, I thought Dworkin went way harder than Raymond for some reason

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      A few years before The Transsexual Empire Dworkin had actually said she considered trans women to be women, at least provisionally (they, like cis women, were in a "state of primary emergency" under patriarchy)

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy

      But people evolve

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    8. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy

      To further clarify, Dworkin always went harder than Raymond on non-trans issues. Raymond never believed that consensual het sex was impossible, for Dworkin that was a key thing. But conversely the only completely trans exclusive thing Dworkin did was that blurb.

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @Nymphomachy

      Yeah but I get uncomfortable when people use that one Dworkin quote as this slam dunk "See the REAL radfem tradition is trans inclusive" prooftext I consider it wildly unlikely that that's more reflective of her overall views than the latter Raymond blurb

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl @Nymphomachy

      Keep in mind one of Dworkin's closest friends and collaborators across her career was Cathy McKinnon

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl @Nymphomachy

      Anyway I know this is stepping out of my lane to a wild degree but people actually softpedal how fucked up a lot of OG radfems were, a lot of them were *worse* than TERFs today to a wild degree

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        2. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 6 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy

          Yup

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        3. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 6 Jul 2020
          Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy

          And it gets WORSE if you step outside the stuff that's still circulating in print. I did a semester as a research assistant looking at 60s and 70s radfem zines predating Dworkin, MacKinnon, or Raymond and while they didn't directly address trans issues they were gross as fck

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl @Nymphomachy

          The term "sex-negative feminism" is not an exaggeration, the so called "sex wars" included big names saying that sexual desire was a fundamentally masculine construct and real, authentic lesbianism was defined by its lack

          3 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl @Nymphomachy

          It was a fairly common take in those circles to talk about cis gay men the exact same way they now talk about trans women, that for a man to have sex with men was an act of misogyny and appropriation

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        2. Amelia Parody Account (but also her real account)‏ @autogynamelia 6 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl @Nymphomachy

          "I know this is stepping out of my lane" Is it, though? Seriously, whether you're trans or not, you know more about this stuff than most trans people I know, let alone most cis people, and I have zero problem with you sharing your consistently insightful analyses of it.

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        3. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 7 Jul 2020
          Replying to @autogynamelia @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy

          Agreed

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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