She sure as hell doesn't see it that way.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
We don't know that. She's still having PTSD flashbacks months after killing Joel. She knows that didn't fix what bothered her
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
That's more, I think, because the story is taking the position vengeance is inherently unjustified and useless, not because Abby holds herself responsible. She transparently doesn't. Abby thinks she is entirely justified and her dad was just a murdered saint.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and
I don’t think this is what the story was arguing at all. I think it was saying Abby was *just as* justified in her vengeance as Ellie was hers. I don’t think it was really giving a moral pass to either ‘side’. But that doesn’t change the final calculations or tangential damage.
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Replying to @Mishyana @loudpenitent and
It all comes down to the original trolley problem and whether you yourself think the possibility of a vaccine makes Jerry a hero or a murderer (And if the utilitarian calculus does mean his actions are justified then how smug or humble he is about it doesn't actually matter)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Mishyana and
Like, litigating whether he was a jerk about it is irrelevant really If the right thing to do is to do it then of course he's going to try to pump himself up over it so that he actually goes through with it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Mishyana and
If it's wrong then all the crying and sadness and regretful hesitation in the world wouldn't make it any less wrong
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
I think it’s also worth considering in the calculus of the overall story that Abby didn’t and never gave a shit about taking vengeance for the “loss of a cure”. Maybe others in the group were, but she was there solely because Joel took her dad away from her.
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Replying to @Mishyana @arthur_affect and
Yeah, like, fundamentally Abby's motivation is purely selfish, she wants to make the man who killed her Perfect Dad suffer.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Mishyana and
I mean he didn't JUST kill her dad he destroyed her entire community and dashed any sense of hope that the Cordyceps/Homo sapiens hybrid won't eventually drive humans extinct and inherit the earth
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If we leave the whole issue of the vaccine aside the fact does remain that the Firefly community completely collapsed after Joel's rampage and destroyed Abby's entire life It's the whole thing with Owen insisting they must ONLY kill Joel or else be "as bad as him"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
(or no one working on any of this was THAT clever about it because they put the very basic all-purpose moral "point" in the heavy-handed double-meaning title of the franchise)
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