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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @loudpenitent and

      It's significant that Abby "saves" him in this scene, that his uncomfortable silence is interrupted by her barging in and telling him that she'd volunteer if she could She lets it go ahead by giving him permission

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    2. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

      Right which means from her POV at least she possibly caused her dad's death

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    3. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and

      She sure as hell doesn't see it that way.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    4. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and

      We don't know that. She's still having PTSD flashbacks months after killing Joel. She knows that didn't fix what bothered her

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    5. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and

      That's more, I think, because the story is taking the position vengeance is inherently unjustified and useless, not because Abby holds herself responsible. She transparently doesn't. Abby thinks she is entirely justified and her dad was just a murdered saint.

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    6. Janine Murdock‏ @Mishyana 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and

      I don’t think this is what the story was arguing at all. I think it was saying Abby was *just as* justified in her vengeance as Ellie was hers. I don’t think it was really giving a moral pass to either ‘side’. But that doesn’t change the final calculations or tangential damage.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Mishyana @loudpenitent and

      It all comes down to the original trolley problem and whether you yourself think the possibility of a vaccine makes Jerry a hero or a murderer (And if the utilitarian calculus does mean his actions are justified then how smug or humble he is about it doesn't actually matter)

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Mishyana and

      I mean at that point we hit the obvious and extremely reasonable criticisms in light of "real" ethics. Such as: "Why the fuck are you in such a hurry instead of slowly studying ethically over a period of years?" or "so how are you gonna manufacture & distribute this?"

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and

      Like the way Jerry talks about it to Marlene honestly just further reinforces my personal belief that the vaccine is just an obsessive idol, a Way To Make It All Worth It. He explicitly says "if we make the vaccine all our losses, sacrifices and misdeeds will be worth it."

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @Mishyana and

      No, I get it If you genuinely seriously think that you must commit an atrocity for the greater good then you've got to rip that bandaid off NOW or else your resolve will falter You have to commit at the moment you decide or else you've already really made the other choice

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

      "If it were done 'tis done, then 'twere well 'tis done quickly", as Macbeth said Jerry isn't going to wait for three years while running tests on Ellie and also getting to know her personality and hopes and dreams He isn't even going to wait for her to wake up

      4:25 PM - 4 Jul 2020
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        2. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Mishyana and

          But, and this is important, *that's not how fucking medical ethics works*.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 4 Jul 2020
          Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and

          We are WAY past that though, aren't we? This isn't before a university review board.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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        1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

          Because he knows if he does that, he will not kill her He'll change his mind, and he must not allow that to happen We've already seen that spending six months with Ellie was enough to turn a previously apathetic and amoral Joel into a crusader willing to let the world burn

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

          *"If it were done WHEN 'tis done, then 'twere well 'tis done quickly" I.e. either do it or don't, doing it won't get any less bad if you spend all day feeling bad about doing it and then do it anyway

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Jul 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

          "Do or do not," as Yoda said, and as his student Luke should've remembered before beginning his nighttime habit of creepily hovering over his nephew's bedside with his lightsaber in his hand

          1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
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