I reiterate that basically no one in gaming has actually killed people and therefore most games don't have anything to say about the act of killing worth listening to, but also neither do most critics, and it's not the core of the story in my analysis
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I mean, I get you don't think it's the core of the story, but not only the creators but most other audiences have a very different experience. That doesn't make yours *invalid*, but it does make it a different experience from ours.
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People think it's the core of the story because games journalists have chosen to make it the core of the story and build the game up as this monstrous thing, purging people's ability to view any part of it as emotive or redemptive. They act out of spite.
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With respect, that is I think more your perspective than reality. Every bit of the press cycle and an extensive amount of the authorial content has all been designed to focus on making violence a monstrous, harrowing, ruinous thing that destroys lives. That is text.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl and
I have yet to hear the creators explicitly say “violence is bad” is the main theme they were hanging their coats on. That is as far as I can tell the entirely and almost uselessly reductive assessment of some of the gaming press.
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Replying to @Mishyana @loudpenitent and
You find me anyone who felt bad *at all in the slightest* about burying a machete in David’s skull in the first game and then maybe I’ll start to buy the narrative that all they were saying is “violence is by default bad”, or that they were even saying it at all.
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Replying to @Mishyana @loudpenitent and
I mean, this does bring up the question about whether Abby's dad murdering Ellie in her sleep and dissecting her brain counts as an "act of violence" or not
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Mishyana and
I mean, pretty transparently. At the very least it's self-aggrandizing "cold equations" shit, and going off his notes in the flashback sequence in Ellie's side of things he was 100% on board with envisioning himself as a history-shaping hero for doing so.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
like seriously, fuck Jerry, the dude's manipulative all-American-dad coding doesn't erase that he was a-ok with murdering a teenage girl as long as it wasn't HIS teenage girl.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
I generally agree but in slight fairness he never actually answers if he would have done the procedure if Abby was immune
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It's significant that Abby "saves" him in this scene, that his uncomfortable silence is interrupted by her barging in and telling him that she'd volunteer if she could She lets it go ahead by giving him permission
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Right which means from her POV at least she possibly caused her dad's death
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
She sure as hell doesn't see it that way.
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