So maybe childless people shouldn't treat parents as people who just made a choice they regret ("Why are you complaining about how hard it is to own a yak? No one made you buy a yak") because it's a socially necessary job But think about that first
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It doesn't always work, obviously, we've all heard stories of old people who haven't seen their kids in years (often, ironically, because their kids are busy with their own kids) But it's a decent strategy, sure
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I just wish parents would admit that this is a thing and that it is a fundamentally selfish motivation Unless you experience the worst case scenario of disowning or being disowned by your kids, your kids' emotional obligations will be to you in 20 years, not to me
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Yeah I mean they'll pay *taxes* to support me in certain ways just as I have to pay taxes to support them now Whoop-de-fucking-do Social services in this country ain't shit Most of the "care" you think I'll receive from your grandkids I'll have to pay for, and pay a lot
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It doesn't have to be that way, and maybe it won't be that way in a glorious communist utopia But in the world as it is right now, it looks a lot like you having kids is you investing in YOUR future, not mine, certainly not the future of the whole human race
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That's... how it's always been, it didn't use to be controversial to say this Our ancestors were very blunt about the fact that they saw their families as in competition with other families and that fecundity was an expansionist move to claim territory for their side
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If you don't see it that way great but you're going to have to demonstrate that you don't instead of asking me to take it on faith From where I'm sitting families are just as willing to viciously tear down other people's kids and parents for their own kids and parents as ever
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(See also: Parent's trying to control their children's lives)
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