And always, "Childless people don't know our challenges, because nobody talks about it." Except you do talk about it. A lot. Even pre-pandemic. You tell us we don't know what hard is, or tired is. You might be right. But it is DEFINITELY not something that nobody talks about.
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That's it. We just want you to stop saying we don't know how hard it is /c nobody talks about it. We don't want you not to talk about it! We're your friends & want to be here for you. We just want you to stop bringing us up from nowhere to say we have it easy & don't know it.
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Talk about that shit. We are sympathetic. It looks really hard I for sure know I couldn't do better. Just, if we're not even in the conversation, don't bring us up to announce that we, as a monolith, don't know about the thing you talk about all the time.
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Replying to @jillybobww
My hot take here is that parents deserve less sympathy and children deserve more.
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Replying to @Cybren @jillybobww
I don't agree about parents, but kids for sure deserve more sympathy and understanding.
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Replying to @batgirlvsrobin @jillybobww
These discussions are ALWAYS framed around patents. They get enough sympathy.
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Replying to @Cybren @jillybobww
It's natural we hear more about the struggles of parents. They're in our spaces. Might be different on tiktok or wherever the kids are. I still feel everyone is suffering from a lack of sympathy towards universally difficult conditions.
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Children and parents are not two equal groups of people who hang out in different "spaces", parents - and other adults - hold tremendous power over children
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Obviously, but that's not what's being discussed. Kids do have discussions among their peers. Adults generally hear more about the gripes of other adults bc we are more likely to be around one another.
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...Yeah, it's the same as how poor people hang out with poor people and rich people hang out with rich people so rich people tend to think of other rich people's needs first It's a bad thing and if you care about justice you have to actively fight it
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The fact that we don't see it this way because we *reflexively assume* parents love their kids and have their best interests at heart (and that kids aren't really people and don't count) is actually pretty messed up
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When a parent starts a big long venting session complaining about their kids it's not that different from an employer going in on complaining about their employees They're not automatically wrong, but it's still a powerful person complaining about someone they have power over
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I agree with that totally. Imo kids are not allowed the space & self-determination they deserve. But that's not what I was arguing for/against.
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