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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 28 Jun 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl

      I would! Because it's ultimately selfish. Abby does not *deserve* life from Ellie, at that point. She *gets* it, but she does not *deserve* it.

      4 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    2. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 28 Jun 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl

      So now we're talking about grace, huh?

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    3. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 28 Jun 2020
      Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl

      "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment." One can acknowledge that Ellie is giving Abby a *gift* of unearned mercy, and still also say mercy is preferable.

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    4. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 28 Jun 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl

      Yeah - I mean, 'what Abby deserves' vs. "what Ellie should do" are not necessarily congruent.

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    5. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 28 Jun 2020
      Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl

      Exactly! Abby still *DESERVES*, at Ellie's hands, exactly the same cruel violence she gleefully dealt out to others. Ellie doesn't do so, and that is a laudable and praiseworthy act, but that doesn't change that Abby continuing to breathe is an unearned gift.

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    6. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 28 Jun 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl

      Like that's how cycles of revenge *work* - they are fueled by what someone "deserves" at the hands of the wronged party. And that's what I meant when I said I can understand why people are irritated - Abby comes out of things way better despite having started the whole cycle.

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    7. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 28 Jun 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @mssilverstein

      Which is why I compare the game to Unforgiven "Deserve's got nothing to do with it"

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Jun 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @loudpenitent @mssilverstein

      I guess this just underscores how controversial the ending of the first game is because the whole "Who started it?" question is central to where your sympathies lie in TLoU2

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Jun 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

      And that question can't be answered without answering all the other questions raised by TLoU 1 If dissecting Ellie is a justifiable and necessary act then the Fireflies were, in fact, innocent and Joel's massacre is an act of murder He started it

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Jun 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

      If it's unjustifiable no matter what in your view, then yes, everyone at the hospital is a murderer or an accessory, Joel was heroically trying to save his daughter, and Abby is the one who fires the first shot in the exchange by killing an innocent man for no good reason

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Jun 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

      These two viewpoints are, I think, irreconcilable and they're very very strongly skewed by people's growing dislike of trolley problem scenarios in games like this and willingness to just go ahead and side with the characters who have names and top billing in the cast

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        1. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 29 Jun 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent @mssilverstein

          Which the second game plays with by top billing both archenemies! And like frankly I don't think the writers really cared that much about the trolley problem, at least not by 2. It was just a motivating reason for Ellie to be a sad teenager and fall out with Joel.

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Jun 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          I feel like if we're gonna get Geneva Conventions involved here we have to come back to the idea that those Conventions were for sovereign nations seen as equals who were all the rightful government of their country It doesn't apply to criminals

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Jun 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          It's like, if some rando kidnaps your daughter and threatens to cut her up for some insane reason, the kidnapper and his friends aren't a country, they don't get Geneva Convention protections, you can fuck them up any way you want in order to save her

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