Where tf do you see genocide apologia? I see people saying “Nazis were bad because they killed Jewish and Roma and Disabled and LGBTQ+ people.” And you keep trying to argue “No, Nazis were bad because they killed people.” Which makes YOU the genocide apologist.
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Replying to @thisniss @iridienne and
Arthur Chu said Nazi acts would have been "obviously" justified if the history was different.
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Replying to @PlzBeSensible @thisniss and
Mass murder of defenseless people is wrong regardless of whether they are Jewish or Roma or Disabled or LGBTQ or whatever. I can't believe I have to spell this out.
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Replying to @PlzBeSensible @thisniss and
John Brown led an armed team to break into a guy's house in the middle of the night while he was asleep, dragged him and his sons into the woods while tied up, then hacked them to death with machetes He is a goddamn hero, one of my personal idols
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Replying to @arthur_affect @PlzBeSensible and
TBF, the man and his older sons had repeatedly and publicly said they were going to kill Brown and his entire family - including the women who were camping with them at the time.
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Replying to @cscstars @PlzBeSensible and
He just said he didn't care about the history
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cscstars and
I didn't say I didn't care about the history. I said no history would've justified what the Nazis did.
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Replying to @PlzBeSensible @cscstars and
You're awfully facile with the phrasing There's a strong case to be made that your hypothetical isn't possible, that the "history" determines what an action even is and it isn't logically possible to do "the same thing with a different history"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @PlzBeSensible and
Much of courtroom law revolves around this question
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Replying to @arthur_affect @PlzBeSensible and
Are you thinking about questions of intent/mens rea here? As in, an act could be first or second degree murder depending on the state of mind of the accused. So the personal histories of the victim and accused determines whether the act is murder or some other act?
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Other things too, like the concept of "felony murder" (if a homicide is carried out during the commission of a felony then it automatically becomes murder)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ArcaneVoid and
I used to teach legal philo. and tried to teach felony murder and misdemeanor manslaughter to my students. Year after year they would say ~ but what about the causation requirements we learned about?
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Replying to @cscstars @arthur_affect and
What are the causation requirements?
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