"Look at these Allied troops! Signing up to fight in a war! Excited to do it! To kill people! With guns! Just like the Nazis! Hypocrites! You should be like me, who did the opposite of what a Nazi would do! You don't see the Nazis surrender to the Nazis, do you?"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Cybren and
The Allies were not guided by a kneejerk sense of disgust. They were working to stop a genocidal maniac.
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Replying to @PlzBeSensible @arthur_affect and
*protect their own strategic interests
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Replying to @Cybren @PlzBeSensible and
The degree to which the Allies didn't actually care about stopping genocide until the Nazis messed with the Allies strategic interest is rather terrifying and shaming.1 reply 4 retweets 43 likes -
If the Allies *had* experienced a knee jerk feeling of horror and disgust towards genocide that was strong enough to propel them to act against the Nazis, we would have been better off. This wasn't the case.
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Fair enough. I still think Arthur Chu's kneejerk sense of disgust towards me, because I like a Jewish blogger who is also liked by people Chu calls "Nazis", is overapplied. In the same way the Nazis had dangerously overapplied disgust for Jews they felt were oppressing them.
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Replying to @PlzBeSensible @Eristae and
Ah, yes, the root cause of Nazism is, of course, the simple existence of negative emotions, without which we would all, by definition, be happy Why did no one else ever think of this solution to societal ills
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Replying to @arthur_affect @PlzBeSensible and
Look, as disgusted as you may be by the emotion of disgust, and as ironic as that may be, as the canonical psychological text Inside Out taught us, disgust is one of the five basic human emotional responses
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Replying to @arthur_affect @PlzBeSensible and
To have a "kneejerk sense of disgust" is to be a functional human being, in particular to have a functional moral sense Indeed, disgust and morality are synonymous - the act of moral judgment is merely an abstraction, the lived experience of which is the feeling of disgust
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Replying to @arthur_affect @PlzBeSensible and
This is how homophobes and transphobes justify themselves though. LGBT supporters may have started out feeling uneasy around gay and trans people, but changed those feelings. Disgust can inform morality, but in a lot of cases the reverse is better.
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I'm not saying emotion "informs" morality, I'm saying it IS morality, that the two things are equivalent and people deny this fact What you are disgusted by - or angered by, or afraid of - IS what your morality is, whether or not you consciously admit it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Hari_Narayan_SK and
Your morality can change, and indeed MUST change over time if you're ever to become a better person than you are right now That entails your emotions changing One can't happen without the other, and the great delusion of the "rationalism" bros is the idea that they're separable
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Hari_Narayan_SK and
I mean - deciding to change your emotional stance is a moral act, right? Where is that coming from? Being more disgusted with your own bigotry than whatever you were reacting to?
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