Yeah I don't know if "dogwhistle" is even the right word here It's completely obvious what he means if you actually follow him or you have any familiarity with the community he's from, but it's deniable to all the randos who wander by
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Replying to @arthur_affect @janedotx and
that's not a dogwhistle, that's a french horn
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Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect and
the barely-concealed eugenicist Charles Murray shit is solidly 1/2 of why I yote myself out of mainstream rationalism; it became obvious that he was /not/ actually rigorously and consistently applying the vaunted standards of truth to everything equally
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Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect and
you can engage with IQ studies meaningfully! and engaging with IQ studies meaningfully, rather than going in KNOWING that you want to come out supporting a contrarian hot take for the sake of having a contrarian hot take to use as a rhetorical point, leads to realising it's shit
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Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect and
beware the man of one study! also beware the man who engages w/ a difficult idea w/o also engaging in good faith with criticism of that idea; nothing that contingent is going to be trivially Right or Wrong; if you constantly just HAPPEN to find that it's Right, over and over...
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Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect and
...then that's evidence to -me- that you've already chosen your side, which is /extra/ irritating b/c of the stance you claim to have taken going in that you're going to be highmindedly neutral and go where the facts lead you
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Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect and
if I claim that I have gone where the facts lead me, and my interlocutor claims that they have gone where the facts lead them, and we wind up on opposing sides, then either one of us is wrong about the facts or the situation is more complex than either of our models allow.
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Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect and
This is fundamentally where the Rationalists fall down. We all believe what we believe largely for social reasons. A Professional with serious training in X can -- sometimes -- believe things within the envelope of X for truly Rational reasons. 1/
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Replying to @amolitor99 @segfaultvicta and
Outside that special case, it's basically all withcraft, voodoo, and some mishmash of shit our Dad believed and shit our Friends believe. ERGO: if you present a rational argument for whatever you believe, it isn't rational, it's rationalizing, because you already believed it. 2/
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Replying to @amolitor99 @arthur_affect and
Yup! And I think they have genuinely useful tools for... being /less wrong/ about things, like, that was the whole reason for the title of the blog/community, right? That it wasn't about /correctness/. Somewhere along the line, people stopped asking "what if I fucked this up".
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The well was always poisoned, Eliezer was obsessed with smart drugs and building godlike AI and all this Flowers for Algernon shit LONG before he started the "rationality dojo" stuff
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Replying to @arthur_affect @segfaultvicta and
The combination of imagined smarts and actual profound ignorance in this world drives me wild, at least when I think about it. I am a mathematician turned programmer who's retired into ham-fisted photography criticism, and *I* know enough biology and cognitive theory ... 1/
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Replying to @amolitor99 @arthur_affect and
... to know that all their fantasies are so ludicrously out of reach that we literally have no idea if they're possible, and there's no evidence *whatsoever* that we can, say, build an AGI, or genetically engineer a smarter human, or make a pill that teaches you to knit. 2/
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