Non-Gamers is most people in our generation, unless you count everyone who plays Candy Crush now and again. I guarentee if you show millennials and Zoomers a picture of Sephiroth, most of them won't know who he is. But everyone knows Voldemort and Darth
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Replying to @loudpenitent
Google Trends is. We're right after the FF7 remake release and Sephiroth is still in dead last!pic.twitter.com/jY1nB8S3kR
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Replying to @BrunchEnjoyer
On the other hand Seph has a lot more cultural cache as an image inspiring imitations than either.
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Replying to @loudpenitent
Maybe, but I think that's mostly limited to JRPG's or anime I love Sephiroth as a villain, but even at their peak JRPG's have never been comparable in popularity to blockbuster movies or Harry Potter
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Replying to @BrunchEnjoyer @loudpenitent
I am very, very confident that nobody I went to high school with knew who Sephiroth was (I didn't know at the time either) and I am fairly confident most of them still don't
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Yeah I'm gonna call absolute bullshit on you there, Arthur. Sorry, I just think you're totally wrong. That said, as I have said repeatedly, this is more about "reshaping/creating a new popular niche of villain archetypes for the genre," which Voldemort sure as shit hasn't.
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Replying to @loudpenitent
I'm wrong about whether or not I'd played Final Fantasy VII in high school or whether people I knew had? (And I ran with a pretty nerdy crowd)
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Replying to @arthur_affect
Your argument that *nobody* in your HS was even aware of it? I mean, I just don't buy it. Am I wrong? Possibly. But even if I am I'm more inclined to believe your experience was unusual than mine.
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Replying to @loudpenitent
I went to a conservative Christian high school where being into video games wasn't a particularly high status activity and where the nerd crowd I was with had a pretty strong xenophobic anti-Japan bias It wasn't at all unusual at the time
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I'm not saying that FFVII wasn't a big hit, I am saying there were major barriers even between different kinds of "nerd"/"gamer" communities in the 90s that might seem quaint to us now, and no anime or JRPG property in the 90s was the equivalent of Star Wars
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Replying to @arthur_affect
In the sense of "radically reshaping what the genre looks like after it with massive long-lasting repercussions on surrounding ones," I would argue FF7 is absolutely a Star Wars equivalent. but you know, I'm genuinely extremely irritated by this entire conversation now.
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