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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020

      And the whole tragedy of it is that there are people who *wanted* it to be a traditional superhero universe - colorful good guys foiling the plans of bad guys, forever, with no one ever permanently winning or changing anything - and they find out that that's fucking stupid

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020

      It's that fundamental difference in what kind of world this is that makes it "gritty and realistic" and a rejection of the fantasy of comic books The superficial shit about sex and violence has very little to do with it, which is why he was pissed that that's what people copied

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020

      Anyway when it comes to games it's the same way Toby Fox talking about how the biggest difference Deltarune has over Undertale is no "branching paths" There's one story, with a beginning, middle and end, and you're just along for the ride

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020

      And, like, that's not really that big a deal even though it sounds like it's a statement about Fate or whatever if you come to it from a game like Undertale "That's the normal way that stories work"

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020

      In TLoU Joel and Ellie are human beings with their own personalities who have already made most of the decisions that define who they are before the story even starts That's normal for how a story works

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020

      In one sense the point of the story is letting us watch the biggest day of their lives, the moment they make the one big choice there's no coming back from But in another sense, that choice was already made long ago, it's just a reflection of their nature That's how this works

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020

      This is kind of what annoys me, because it shouldn't be that big a damn deal It's ancient knowledge Stories are interesting because they look like anything could happen at first and then at the end you look back and go "Yeah that's how it had to be"

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    8. eggynack‏ @eggynack 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      I find The Stanley Parable pretty interesting in this context. There's obviously a variety of ways for the story to go, but, in order for that diversity of paths to add up narratively, the characters have to have started out differently in a meaningful sense.

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    9. eggynack‏ @eggynack 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @eggynack @arthur_affect

      Like, the narrator of the explosion path, spiteful and cruel, cannot really be reconciled with the narrator of the Zending, powerless and pitiable. One could imagine reading it as one character in two circumstances, but it just doesn't add up.

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    10. eggynack‏ @eggynack 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @eggynack @arthur_affect

      The man staring at the future narrative and desperate for free will is not the man who thinks the story goes best when it's perfectly linear. The endings retroactively make them different characters from the beginning.

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @eggynack

      I have played games/interactive fiction that fully commit to this and I really like it They're not doing it as a pure simulation, instead when you "make a choice" what you're really doing is going back in time and retroactively establishing who the character was before

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @eggynack

          This is the diegetic explanation for why Bioware games would let you establish your character's alignment with a casual conversation

          1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 16 Jun 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @eggynack

          "Did I really gain 20 Dark Side points and send myself down the path of the Sith just by being rude to a stranger?" "No, you were telling me that you're the kind of person who's just casually verbally abusive to people for no reason as a daily habit"

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        2. Ben‏ @SpaceCowboy207 16 Jun 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @eggynack

          Kentucky Route Zero does this really really well. All of the choices you make as the character are woven into the story as basically the only choices that character would make, rather than a diversion or alignment with a preconceived idea of the character.

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        3. Ben‏ @SpaceCowboy207 16 Jun 2020
          Replying to @SpaceCowboy207 @arthur_affect @eggynack

          Or rather, the things the character says about themselves or their past *are true* for your version of the character. There is no *true* version that you’re either telling the truth or lying about like there is in most choice-based games.

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