Yeah - although I think some of that in real life is incorporated within diplomatic structures (building alliances to ensure support, etc.) And there are other peaceful ways to expand in those games, with big cities and technology. It's the back-and-forth that's missing.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @perdricof and
And, tbf, it likely isn't that fun even if simulated well. Do I really want to play a game of Civ where I have to study the personalities and varied interests of my neighbors?
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Replying to @mssilverstein @perdricof and
And also, I think a lot of real-world things are hard to simulate, because they're things like strong cultural ties to specific bits of land that will feel very arbitrary if generated randomly. Or they're in your own head, only.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @perdricof and
Because I *do* play games like that sometime (I must avenge the battle of Turn 40) but the CPU doesn't know that.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @chrysopoetics and
interestingly, "failing to understand the enemy's motivations and ideology" is actually a really common feature of diplomacy -- often this is the cause of truly great catastrophes
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Replying to @perdricof @mssilverstein and
pearl harbor is an instructive example. the japanese assumed this would bloody america's nose and dissuade us from pursuing a long and costly war, when in fact it assured the exact opposite and led to the total destruction of the japanese regime. whoops!
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Replying to @perdricof @mssilverstein and
There were even people who said so at the time (the Sleeping Giant speech) Sam Houston said something very similar warning his fellow Southern politicians about why secession was a really stupid idea
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
Using the old metaphor of climate for temperament "Your Northern brothers may seem like they lack your fiery temper, for they were raised in colder climes But once their anger is aroused it will crush you with the full force of an avalanche"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
I mentioned earlier the South's various "Ranger" units just letting bandits and thugs run free robbing and killing people along the border Which was this conscious strategy going "Yankees are all soft clerks who will crumple instantly at their first bloody nose"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
"Put the regular middle class civilians in fear for their lives and they'll vote for peace tomorrow" Sherman's March to the Sea was the eventual and inevitable response to this bullshit
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"Oh, you want to see a bloody nose? Oh, you want to see civilians put in fear?"
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