I'm aware. It's why, when I'm working, I support those artists and creators who make content I like. But I'm also not sure what point you're trying to make. Most people are doing badly right now, but that's a whole other problem.
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
But, again, people are able to make a living doing their passion, making art, and getting paid for it. How is that a broken system? How is the fact that people can find a niche and fill out a bad thing?
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Replying to @phyphor @lawnerdbarak and
The presence of *somebody somewhere* making money isn't an argument that a system is just fine Like if it were then everything would be just fine -- tipped waitstaff would be fine, Uber drivers would be fine
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Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and
I'm arguing that *you* are the one holding up a system that works for the rare few, whilst in arguing for a system that we can see works for very many.
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Replying to @phyphor @lawnerdbarak and
I am arguing the system objectively worked for more people in the 1990s than it did in the 2010s and that the perception the reverse is true is an illusion (based solely on how much content is available to you and not how well-off authors as a class are financially)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and
I am fairly confident in this belief based both on looking at numbers and on anecdotal evidence from people who've been in the field a long time and can actually make the comparison between then and now
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and
I could be wrong, but I do not look at the life of a "content creator" online in the 21st century and feel much optimism Quite the reverse If you follow any of these individual scenes closely the drama over payment is constant and neverending (the YouTube "adpocalypse" etc)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and
Which is why creators stopped caring about adverts and focused on communities and Patreons. A point I thought I'd made some time ago.
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
And communities and Patreons only reward artists who a) are super good at salesmanship and/or b) had a pre-existing huge community.
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Replying to @iridienne @phyphor and
Communities and patreons also largely succeed based on making the content creator the product rather than the content itself.
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Yes, I thought about starting a Patreon once and still haven't done it because so much about it makes me uncomfortable I am extremely leery about creating a direct financial relationship with "my fans", with the concurrent perceived obligations
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Cybren and
And this is coming from someone who was super supportive of Patreon when it started (I even liked Jack Conte and his girlfriend's band Pomplamoose they created it for) "Finally, a way to directly support a person without paying for a specific product"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Cybren and
Yeah, there is a lot of great stuff that can only happen under such a model It can also turn real ugly real fast
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