We have successfull models for people to make creative works, and get paid for it. It's not the greatest, because Patreon taking a massive cut for doing nothing is a problem, but it works for lots of people.
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
Now, sure, maybe it's not millions of dollars, but maybe your work isn't with that much. Or, if it is, maybe you'd get it if your tried that model.
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
But, again, musicians have been fighting this battle for longer than authors. Remember when Limewire was the thing? But now we have at least three models for streaming music backed by big players.
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Replying to @phyphor @lawnerdbarak and
Yeah and the money you make from streaming is awful Like, so so bad, it's ridiculous Actively insulting to a level that no one would've tolerated in the "bad old days" of dealing with record labels and radio stations
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and
I don't think people realize this Your favorite obscure indie artist you found on Spotify makes *literally no money* from Spotify Like *literally* a few hundred bucks, max, for the sum total of all the time they've been on it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and
People who have moderately large followings who cut an album tend to delay releasing on streaming as long as they possibly can and they get yelled at for their fanbases over it and the response is always "Look I just want to make *some money* selling the album *if I can*"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and
Taylor Swift had a whole big thing about this, she revealed that the reason she didn't put her music on Spotify for so long is that she's fucking Taylor Swift and their percentage meant she'd make less in a year for her whole catalogue than if she spent it working at Arby's
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Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and
So what you're saying is that the biggest of stars can't rig the game if we use a new model? That seems like a feature, not a bug.
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
It's fine for Taylor Swift, who makes more money than any of us can really comprehend having, but what about some rando indie band that really needs those sales to get by?
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Replying to @AmyVeeres @arthur_affect and
I'm a nerdcore fan, so you don't need to talk to me about rando indies. And, again, they point is, they have made it work That's my point. They make sales to fans.
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If you actually asked them how much money they actually make -- in comparison to how famous they are and how many fans they seem to have -- you'd probably be surprised (Not revealing this is, ofc, part of that always-on "You gotta be your own marketer, project success" ethos)
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