The consumer-focused standpoint that the reason to put a price tag on something is that your consumption creates scarcity for other consumers is the whole problem here The issue is not the consumer, either way, it's the producer
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Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and
Right, and I'm saying that if the producer has been paid a fair amount for their art then why should they have to worry about the number of people accessing it?
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
We have successfull models for people to make creative works, and get paid for it. It's not the greatest, because Patreon taking a massive cut for doing nothing is a problem, but it works for lots of people.
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
Now, sure, maybe it's not millions of dollars, but maybe your work isn't with that much. Or, if it is, maybe you'd get it if your tried that model.
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
But, again, musicians have been fighting this battle for longer than authors. Remember when Limewire was the thing? But now we have at least three models for streaming music backed by big players.
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Replying to @phyphor @lawnerdbarak and
Yeah and the money you make from streaming is awful Like, so so bad, it's ridiculous Actively insulting to a level that no one would've tolerated in the "bad old days" of dealing with record labels and radio stations
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and
I don't think people realize this Your favorite obscure indie artist you found on Spotify makes *literally no money* from Spotify Like *literally* a few hundred bucks, max, for the sum total of all the time they've been on it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and
Sure, but I can also go and buy the track directly from the artist to support them. Do I need to go and photograph the actual CDs I have from these artists to prove that the model works? I don't know what you're trying to argue, here. You claim that no other model works.
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Replying to @phyphor @lawnerdbarak and
I claim that this model works less well for most artists than the model we had before, and the takes you can find arguing that the Internet and the sharing economy was going to be a brave new world of freely spread wealth are from the mid-2000s before this turned out not to work
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and
What I claim is, I think, fairly easily observable -- traditional publishing has been slowly caving in and leaving a ton of creative people out of work And the Internet revolution we were promised would replace it makes it really, really hard to make money
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Like I hate to break it to you but most "Internet people" are really fucking poor You don't realize -- even *famous* Internet people are just making what in the pre-Internet era was a middle-class living for someone with their analogous job
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Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and
I'm aware. It's why, when I'm working, I support those artists and creators who make content I like. But I'm also not sure what point you're trying to make. Most people are doing badly right now, but that's a whole other problem.
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Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and
But, again, people are able to make a living doing their passion, making art, and getting paid for it. How is that a broken system? How is the fact that people can find a niche and fill out a bad thing?
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