ALOY: ...so I never had a mother :( SYLENS: what do you mean, you had two. A dead woman and a machine ALOY: .... the two genders
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I pointed out to one of them that by this logic in cases of surrogacy, which are mostly cishet infertile couples trying to have biological kids, if both parents donate their gametes then they're both "fathers", including the egg donor They didn't like that
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It's true, though, their whole thing about how they don't like fathers because fathers get someone pregnant and then have a claim on the child without doing any of the gestation That means nowadays there are tons of cis women who are fathers
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