ALOY: ...so I never had a mother :( SYLENS: what do you mean, you had two. A dead woman and a machine ALOY: .... the two genders
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And the original is a "father", even if it's a cis woman
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I pointed out to one of them that by this logic in cases of surrogacy, which are mostly cishet infertile couples trying to have biological kids, if both parents donate their gametes then they're both "fathers", including the egg donor They didn't like that
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