Ah right, I forgot. But although the help are his employees they are not his company’s employees. The class relations are due to his wealth and social status. This is aristocratic exploitation, with capitalist exploitation at a remove. Wealth/social inequality is the villain.
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Well, sure, and Mr Kim is a failed capitalist (they're in the place they are because he got sucked into the dream of "starting and growing a business you can retire on" and ended up with nothing but debt)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ticketdust and
I mean, sure, Bong is more interested in examining wealth through the lens of consumption than production The Tail Section Passengers in Snowpiercer aren't proles but lumpenproles (literally useless, just kept packed in there doing nothing all day)
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That's kind of the point, though, this is a realistic POV he's exploring The Kims, as typical lumpen, are so far removed from the process of creating wealth they treat it as all bullshit, as one big scam The way you get money is by tricking people into giving it to you
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I might draw a loose parallel with Shameless, which for all its flaws had early on a really good feel for how “honest” living looks when you are poor and it seems out of reach
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Yeah and in this kind of world the line between a hustle and and honest work is so thin Ki-woo's buddy may have had real credentials to teach the daughter English and Ki-woo's may be fake but the job is equally real/fake either way
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It's not like she's ever actually going to need to speak English fluently as anything but another bullshit status symbol of wealth, and it's not like Min-hyuk wasn't also just taking advantage of the family and hitting on the daughter while he was there
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Qell, if she decided to emigrate... btw was I the only one who thought a 20-something guy (assuming he did 2 years of military, is that so in Korea?) hotting on a 15-year old was pushing it?
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No he's a creep and the whole thing is bad It's very much a "Who's exploiting whom" kind of situation
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does the film tink he's a creep for hitting on her? it seems at least somewhat unclear...
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The thing where he tells Ki-woo "I don't want any of those gross college guys hitting on her but I can trust you" seems so obviously hypocritical that I don't think it's meant to be positive
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Replying to @arthur_affect @nberlat and
Like they both seem to think it's gross for *other* guys their age to hit on her
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not clear if he thinks it's gross because of the age gap or because they're other guys...
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