and they make common cause and then what?
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Replying to @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy
Well, that would be a happy ending to the movie, which is why it can't be allowed to happen If you mean the fact this isn't a long-term stable situation -- the Parks could always move, the little kid is slowly twigging to what's going on, etc -- that's also part of the theme
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy
no, I mean it is a stable situation, pretty much. the thing about capitalism that is kind of terrifying is that it's quite stable.
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it's a fun heist, and then it's a metaphor about shit flowing downstream, and then it's the repressed coming back to murder everyone on the kid's birthday. Is there an understanding of capitalist exploitation there exactly?
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It’s social class exploitation rather than explicitly capitalist exploitation. We’re talking about upper class bourgeois salary workers and their hired help not any actual capitalists after all.
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No, Mr. Park is the owner of a company
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Ah right, I forgot. But although the help are his employees they are not his company’s employees. The class relations are due to his wealth and social status. This is aristocratic exploitation, with capitalist exploitation at a remove. Wealth/social inequality is the villain.
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Well, sure, and Mr Kim is a failed capitalist (they're in the place they are because he got sucked into the dream of "starting and growing a business you can retire on" and ended up with nothing but debt)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ticketdust and
I mean, sure, Bong is more interested in examining wealth through the lens of consumption than production The Tail Section Passengers in Snowpiercer aren't proles but lumpenproles (literally useless, just kept packed in there doing nothing all day)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ticketdust and
That's kind of the point, though, this is a realistic POV he's exploring The Kims, as typical lumpen, are so far removed from the process of creating wealth they treat it as all bullshit, as one big scam The way you get money is by tricking people into giving it to you
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Value isn't created by genuine primary production in farms and mines and factories, it just kind of exists and just gets shuffled around via bullshit According to orthodox Marxism this is a false view of the world but it's extremely common
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ticketdust and
And I mean I think about this a lot, that most of the really down and out in our generation lack "class consciousness" because we're much more lumpen than prole Work is bullshit, taking "pride in your work" is for suckers, everything is a scam
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ticketdust and
That's the world Parasite takes place in, and honestly Snowpiercer too There are no jobs on the train, everyone is a "passenger" and all the "work" is just this manufactured system of conflict to pit passengers against each other
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