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Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy

      It's actually very clear that it would not have been difficult for the Kims and the housekeeper to come to a truce thanks to the MAD they have against each other once they know each other's secrets -- leaving some food for the guy is no big deal, the housekeeper did it for years

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    2. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy

      she's likely to be somewhat pissed they poisoned her ot make her lose her position it seems like.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy

      Well, yes, they both start escalating once the Kims' secret comes out but she's the one who's pretty consistently on the side of pleading for her husband's life

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy

      and they make common cause and then what?

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy

      Well, that would be a happy ending to the movie, which is why it can't be allowed to happen If you mean the fact this isn't a long-term stable situation -- the Parks could always move, the little kid is slowly twigging to what's going on, etc -- that's also part of the theme

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    6. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy

      no, I mean it is a stable situation, pretty much. the thing about capitalism that is kind of terrifying is that it's quite stable.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 25 May 2020
      Replying to @nberlat @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy

      it's a fun heist, and then it's a metaphor about shit flowing downstream, and then it's the repressed coming back to murder everyone on the kid's birthday. Is there an understanding of capitalist exploitation there exactly?

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    8. amanasleep‏ @ticketdust 25 May 2020
      Replying to @nberlat @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy

      It’s social class exploitation rather than explicitly capitalist exploitation. We’re talking about upper class bourgeois salary workers and their hired help not any actual capitalists after all.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @ticketdust @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy

      No, Mr. Park is the owner of a company

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. amanasleep‏ @ticketdust 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy

      Ah right, I forgot. But although the help are his employees they are not his company’s employees. The class relations are due to his wealth and social status. This is aristocratic exploitation, with capitalist exploitation at a remove. Wealth/social inequality is the villain.

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @ticketdust @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy

      Well, sure, and Mr Kim is a failed capitalist (they're in the place they are because he got sucked into the dream of "starting and growing a business you can retire on" and ended up with nothing but debt)

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ticketdust and

          I mean, sure, Bong is more interested in examining wealth through the lens of consumption than production The Tail Section Passengers in Snowpiercer aren't proles but lumpenproles (literally useless, just kept packed in there doing nothing all day)

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ticketdust and

          That's kind of the point, though, this is a realistic POV he's exploring The Kims, as typical lumpen, are so far removed from the process of creating wealth they treat it as all bullshit, as one big scam The way you get money is by tricking people into giving it to you

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        2. amanasleep‏ @ticketdust 25 May 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy

          In a way this type of story reminds me of a much older class politics tradition, like something out of Stendhal. The corruption of the nobility and the organization of society around anticipating their needs while sacrificing the striving and the genius among the lower classes.

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        3. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 25 May 2020
          Replying to @ticketdust @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy

          right...the great issue is not exploitation but respect and deference, who belongs where and which lines you're allowed to cross.

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