it is really not about class exploitation in any straightforward way. and absolutely not about class solidarity at all; the family just enthusiastically fucks over all their peers.
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Replying to @nberlat
I mean, portraying a lack of solidarity is a way a movie can in fact be about solidarity
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Replying to @arthur_affect
it can be! I don't see it in this case; way too fragmented and confused about it. I think someone has to make at least a gesture at a case for solidarity, if that's what the movie wants to be about.
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Replying to @nberlat @arthur_affect
They do that in one scene quite explicitly, no?
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Replying to @Mad_Science_Guy @arthur_affect
not really. the dad sort of vaguely feels sorry for the driver he got booted is the closest they come. but I don't think empathy (however vague) is the same as solidarity.
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Replying to @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy
Yes, that's what I mean, it's portraying a lack of solidarity He's capable of recognizing they did a very bad thing, he can project himself into the driver's shoes, but he can't look past that to how this behavior keeps them all fucked over as a class
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Which I thought was a very trenchant observation about how members of the underclass fighting each other for the scraps of the rich keeps them downtrodden as a group.
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Yeah, I mean it's a really weird hot take to try to grade a film on its class politics by asking whether it "depicts class solidarity" Solidarity is an ideal, it's not that "good politics" means depicting the existence of solidarity as a fact The fact is it mostly doesn't exist
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Replying to @arthur_affect @wfrolik and
If working-class solidarity were a persistent and consistent and powerful force in our country, it would look nothing like it does today And Bong is very intensely focused in this movie about a similar analysis of South Korean politics
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This is something that as an American viewer I was never sure if I was missing something, and I just chalked it up to not being South Korean and having that background in my head
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Yeah I don't think it's the same in a US context, where the waves of scammy get-rich-quick self-starter businesses were so universal they're an instantly recognizable trope Maybe if they'd said something about "dotcom businesses" in the 90s, or "real estate investing" in '09
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