oscar films are just never good, is the moral.
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it is really not about class exploitation in any straightforward way. and absolutely not about class solidarity at all; the family just enthusiastically fucks over all their peers.
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Replying to @nberlat
I mean, portraying a lack of solidarity is a way a movie can in fact be about solidarity
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it can be! I don't see it in this case; way too fragmented and confused about it. I think someone has to make at least a gesture at a case for solidarity, if that's what the movie wants to be about.
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They do that in one scene quite explicitly, no?
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not really. the dad sort of vaguely feels sorry for the driver he got booted is the closest they come. but I don't think empathy (however vague) is the same as solidarity.
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Yes, that's what I mean, it's portraying a lack of solidarity He's capable of recognizing they did a very bad thing, he can project himself into the driver's shoes, but he can't look past that to how this behavior keeps them all fucked over as a class
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Which I thought was a very trenchant observation about how members of the underclass fighting each other for the scraps of the rich keeps them downtrodden as a group.
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Yeah, I mean it's a really weird hot take to try to grade a film on its class politics by asking whether it "depicts class solidarity" Solidarity is an ideal, it's not that "good politics" means depicting the existence of solidarity as a fact The fact is it mostly doesn't exist
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Replying to @arthur_affect @wfrolik and
If working-class solidarity were a persistent and consistent and powerful force in our country, it would look nothing like it does today And Bong is very intensely focused in this movie about a similar analysis of South Korean politics
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It's a huge part of the Kims' characterization that Mr. Kim is a serial entrepreneur, part of a wave of middle-class college graduates who started tumbling down the class ladder in 1997 and whose response was to get locked into a boom-bust cycle of faddish get rich quick schemes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @wfrolik and
It's a major moment of empathy/identification when Oh Geun-sae (the man in the basement) reveals that he had to flee from his creditors because of his "Taiwan cake shop" that got wiped out, the same scammy business model that Mr. Kim mentioned wiped him out in an earlier scene
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The film even gives us a reaction shot to Mr. Kim when he says this, a moment of realization that he then hurriedly suppresses
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